THF and DNC

[Rambus]

I personally think Thief has three main problems:

1) SE dramatically overestimates the frequency with which you can land SA and TA in an 80% Haste environment with even only 3 DDs, and they also dramatically overestimate the benefit of landing SA and TA. When I look at the WSs and gear they give Thief, I become more and more sure that they're assuming almost every WS THF does is stacked with SA or TA. Realistically, Thief seems to use these JAs about half as often as that because situations that encourage one tend to discourage the other.
TAing in Dynamis, easy! Plenty of people hitting the monster so one is bound to stay in front of you.
SAing in Dynamis, hard. The monster is spinning.

can be hard anywhere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWtmr2Lz2_0

I was in an EXP pt long ago where i was to voke to let a thf land SATA on tank. it did not work because he would auto run the mob to make it spin and flop around.

look at emp ws ( we talked about this before) it is only good with SA or TA (maybe I do not have it to quote that). having a emp ws dependent like that is not right