Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
The difficulty of the upgrade is what made it worth doing. It took me four years but honestly I wouldn't have wanted it any other way.
I think you missed my point. I was arguing the worth of the weapon between trial/upgrades and the meaningfulness of the individual trials. If a weapon takes forever to upgrade that may as well be. What sucks for nearly all trials and upgrades is how mindless they are. Is killing 1000 monsters under a certain condition really that much of a trial when you have already killed tens of thousands to level your jobs, quest, grind whatever?

I would argue that the upgrade process for a mythic weapon is the best because requires you to go through a TON of meaningful content but goes overboard by forcing you to turn in an unreasonable amount of alexandrite and repeat assault/einherjar too much. If something was done similarly with empyrean weapons people probably wouldn't be up in arms as much. I'm working on my 2nd empyrean and absolutely hate the process. I would much sooner 100% abyssea zones for empyrean upgrades than kill monsters 50,50,75 times. At least that way the end product would feel meaningful and I would have experienced everything.