FIX Relic Weapons

[Tamarsamar]

Their solution to the new jobs was the mythics and empyreans. It's as simple as that.

Part of me still thinks that's kind of stupid, though, how ToAU jobs and especially WotG jobs are missing out on equipment which such a strong legacy to be receiving any sort of upgrade by popular demand. (The rest of me doesn't care . . .)

[Ellewyn]

Frankly speaking, relics were never hard to make in the first place. If you can make the gil to buy the currency then theres your relic. You can also merc your fragment and attestation as well. Relics take time in the form of gil farming. Empyreans can take time in the part of making pop sets. Not everyone has a whole bunch of people to help them do empyrean in 2 weeks, since getting it done in that timeframe is absurd unless you have at least 5-6 people helping you hold pop sets and help you kill continuously for hours. I would say the avg. time for making an empyrean (if you are fairly dedicated) is about 2 months. You can do a relic in the same amount of time if you farm your gil in a smart way.

I don't know where the idea of empyreans all having amazing dmg over their relic counterparts comes from. The empyrean scythe from what I hear is garbage. The polearm (which I personally have) averages about 1600-2000dmg in abyssea AND outside. Its excellent DPS, but WS dmg is not that great. The ONLY empyrean weapons that are amazing (broken) dmg are the great axe, h2h, bow or gun (I forget which), and sword (in comparison with excal), and ochain. That is not every empyrean weapon.

So sick of the QQ over relics being useless/underpowered/too time consuming/not time consuming enough/not hard enough/etc etc etc.