FIX Relic Weapons

[Bubian]

I support the OP. SE pls fix relics.

[hollowsgrief]

I agree that people who put years of their life into getting a relic weapon should get something to show for it, I also agree with Karumac; relic weapons should be much much easier to obtain, spending two years+ to get just a single item is ridiculous. However, I do not believe that relic weapons should be the outright most powerful weapons in the game, that is like saying you want artifact armor to be better than emphy armor, relic weapons should rival emphy weapons but not surpass them.

[Alkalinehoe]

With the new direction SE seems to be going with Dynamis now, I am getting the impression that they are giving up on Relics, or at least, not surpass empryeans entirely. It's going to be easier than ever to obtain one now and at a much faster rate, no reason to keep them godly (as if most relics at 75 were godly... few were just good improvements and Apoc was the only really good one)

[Alhanelem]

If they were giving up on relics, they wouldn't have made upgrade trials for them.

[Alkalinehoe]

If they were giving up on relics, they wouldn't have made upgrade trials for them.

I meant that they were giving up on making Relics a substantial advantage over empryeans, not making them obsolete allt ogether.

[Tamarsamar]

In response to hollowsgrief, the Empyrean Weapon Skills are most of the reason that most Empyrean Weapons (and, quite absurdly, most of their Walk of Echoes counterparts) outperform Relic Weapons. In other words, if your Empyrean Weapon Skill sucks, then in all likelihood, so does your Empyrean Weapon. Because of this, there is a shining exception to the rule of Empyrean superiority, and that's for Mjollnir still being the best damage-dealing Club in the game. Which is great for the melee White Mages that got it! But hardly consoling for everybody else.

(Strictly speaking this also means that the Hvergelmir is even worse than the Claustrum . . . but at least the former isn't as much of a pain to get.)

[Cupofnoodles]

its going to be hard to beat the BST -pdt and the +peteva axes unless they do something drastic and combine the two axes abilities. Also with 2 of each axe and depending on which pet you use, like sheep pet for -pdt and dipper for +peteva, you can get "ok" gear and have -100 pdt and on the other set have +100 peteva

[Rambus]

I think some relics need to be fixed so they are for casters Claustrum is... well... useless for the most part.

this is the other thing relics need balance between eachother as well. like all the good ones use a ton of bronze , and thus why people sell that currecy for so much more.

I think each relic sould be best for that job. some relic ws suck even at 75.
at 75 your still using asuran firsts not final heaven, dancing edge/ evisceration, i guess mercy stroke was used situinally, penta thrust not geirskogul and so on.

I do not see the point of making relics easier to get when you have mythics and empyrean weapons. Let the hard core gamers something to shoot for and the have nots can get close with empyrean and mythics.

(mythics need to be tone down in how much money it requres)

mythics cost too much to be quest based

[radicaldreamer]

Not all empyrean weapons are easier to get than relics. And actually relics should be easier pretty soon, seeing as the Dynamis system is going to be redone to where you can enter every day. Not that I would want them, since my hard-as-hell to get Almace is better than the Excalibur I dreamed of long ago. :P

[Dew]

They said they are creating a new set of the most powerful weapons in the game, aka Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean weapons at Lv.99. It won't be just one set of ether Empyreans, Relics, or Mythics. Most likely it will be all three sets. Never did they say they were making Relics alone the most powerful weapons.