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    Player Kiba's Avatar
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    Not trying to defend, but I think what Unctgtg meant was relics weapons should not be be attained through easy means. Like empyrean weapons relics should still be attained through time, effort, and dedication which is perfectly reasonable on what it takes to acquire the top tier weapons in the game. If everyone has a relic where would there be a sense of accomplishment and competition. So point comes down everyone should have the opportunity and reasonable means to build a relic weapon just like how successful empyrean weapons became. Yes this is a game, a game which challenge is a factor that keeps us playing.
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  2. #52
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    I really think relics should be "hardest" or most "time consuming" even at 75 mythics took too much when compared to relics. When you compare the money spent and the quests mythics are harder to get then relics and that shouldn't be. When mythics came out didn't they say mythics where suppose to be more quest based, second best to relics? They take too much money to be quest based (120-150 mil is more then most relics) and for some jobs i think normal magain weapons can out do them. I still want to know why they have a MAB on weapons for casting damage jobs where at 75 the elemental staffs out did them.

    Empyreans are nice, to bridge the have and the have nots. To say relics should be easier to get and have them underperform Empyreans is wrong to me. There is no point in saying that or doing that expect to laugh at people that spent so much time getting a relic.
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    ive never seen suck a butthurt DRK in my life wow, for starters apocs WS was never a strong one to start with didn't have insane numbers on it at all. it changed the way DRK was played, the bonus of it to me is insane i still think outside abbys it will be a strong weapon way stronger then most emps (outside abbys) i dont see why u cry so much and threaten to leave if ur so hurt by it then why havent u left yet? yes i do understand the insane amount of time and effort that goes in to a relic hell its still a goal of mine to get a apoc cause ive wanted one since they first came out but never had the time or gils to invest into a relic. do i find it fair that emps over power relics well ya, do u really think there gonna make a new form of a relic and make it weak? seriously now what u own is a true respectable piece in my eyes but its 2011 dude grow up and realise that better stuff is always gonna come. suprised u aint crying about AF3 and other gears pwning out King gear and salvage gear either. they game is taking a really good turn for the casual player i like what SEs doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karumac View Post
    I believe their real solution is this Dynamis update: Make Relics easier to get instead of making them more powerful.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
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    But that is the solution. Yes relic and mythic weapons should get a boost in power but claiming that a single set of weapons should be the best of the best and should be extremely hard to get is just silly. That's the mentality the devs were working with years ago and a fat lot of good it did them then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catsby View Post
    But that is the solution. Yes relic and mythic weapons should get a boost in power but claiming that a single set of weapons should be the best of the best and should be extremely hard to get is just silly. That's the mentality the devs were working with years ago and a fat lot of good it did them then.
    Yeah, a fat lot of good it did them - one of the best MMOs and most consistent player bases that didn't have to make its self a clone of another well known MMO to get anywhere; didn't do much at all for them, did it?

    Now it is making its self a clone of another well known MMO, we've seen two mass server merges within the past 12 months, people must be dropping out like flys. Fat lot of good it did them.

    I know I for one am not asking that Relics or Mythics be made the ultimate weapons again - but for them to not be on par with weapons which can be obtained in a week or so is definitely not going to do them any favours.
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    I agree with the going back and tweaking relic weapons, but i also suggest that they should add new weapons for jobs such as Blu, Pup, Dnc, Cor, and Sch, as they do not have one.
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  8. #58
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    People started dropping like flies because level 75 was very limited. There was no diversity in what anyone was doing. There was a set path for "best" Whm(meaning all jobs but using whm for ex). There were no optional gear. To be a good whm you have to have this ONE set of gear. Why continue to level and play when everything you wanted to strive for can just be found in every other 75 whm on the server? No one wants to be a clone, it's boring. People want the ability to customize and make the char feel like their own. Their own "version of a whm." All SE has done to accomadate this has been great. It was just a little too late.
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    What about us that have no relics and have mythics that are meh in most cases. but yes I find it sad that Myself as a pup can do more dmg with my pummel then most jobs can. And I am only part of my damage.

    but not going to complain about that, but it is sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilbersty View Post
    I agree with the going back and tweaking relic weapons, but i also suggest that they should add new weapons for jobs such as Blu, Pup, Dnc, Cor, and Sch, as they do not have one.
    It's not necessary. Every job had a mythic and empyrean. And most of those jobs save COR wouldn't want the relic.
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