FIX Relic Weapons

[Fetus]

Why do people expect this game to stay stagnant? It doesn't matter how hard you've worked or how many people you've used/RMTed currency to obtain your relic. New weapons are available, go get them and accept the fact that things change. Or do Magian trials to upgrade your old weapon and live in the past; you should be glad that the developers even gave you that option to begin with. World of Warcraft has similar weapons, and with every expansion or raid they become outdated. In that game, players readily accept that. Why can't you?

The point of any MMO is to get new gear, not to use the same weapon from 4 years ago. Mythics and empyreans were a step in the right direction. The game is evolving and it's better than it ever has been, relic owners need to evolve with it and stop crying.

I pretty much agree on all points. The only real opinion I have about Relic weapons, in general, is that most of the additional effects are lame, most of the WS are lame and most of the aftermath effects are lame.

60%AGI mod on Geirskogul? Shock Spikes as an aftermath? Seriously...

The additional effects need to be updated or replaced entirely. Most of the WS need to be seriously reinvented... status modifiers and TP modifier values need to be adjusted and/or changed. WS that look like they're multi-hit should be... I always thought that was ridiculous. Most of the aftermath effects are garbage. Relics need to become more stream-lined like Empyrean weapons are.

[Wojo]

I believe their real solution is this Dynamis update: Make Relics easier to get instead of making them more powerful.

Glad I waited to try to accomplish that. Same goes for the empy, adjustments should make those easier to get.

If you think you relic is gimp thats because new content is added that obsoletes what is already out. Look at my AF1, man that stuff used to ROCK back when the level cap was 60. Now? not so much. In the exact same way , your salvage gear and relics used to rock when the level cap was 75. Now? not so much.

This is how the game always worked so it shouldn't be a surprise.

But what the game really needs is new materials and craftable items to pick the economy back up.

[Aeonk]

I'm with you on this tgtg. Though I don't have a relic weapon myself (working on eymp) I thnk that the people that put real time into getting relic weapons should get a major upgrade. They should go back to being the best weapons in the game.

Relics have been top dog for 7 years. That's a long time to sit on the throne without eventually being expected to do some work (like get an empyrean) to maintain it.

[Kyoshin]

I would be happy with 30-40% Double damage procs as we call them Relic Procs, and 500 more damage on WSs then emp.

Sorry Unc, but 500 more damage on WSs? Compare Final Heaven with Victory Smite. Blade: Metsu with Blade: Hi.

That's just not happening with how the weapon skills actually function, for some of them. :/

[Unctgtg]

Kyo u know what I mean. You of all people should know I have been very patient with SE, granted some of my rants on vent made a bad sailor seem like an angel lol

500 more WS damage meaning if a War uses Emp WS and hits 8k I want to hit 8.5k on my WS or more. highest damage weapons should deal the most damage plain and simple lol.

So SE fix your game, or give us confirmation you plain on overhauling the rest of relics like you said with aegis.

[Kyoshin]

Kyo u know what I mean. You of all people should know I have been very patient with SE, granted some of my rants on vent made a bad sailor seem like an angel lol

500 more WS damage meaning if a War uses Emp WS and hits 8k I want to hit 8.5k on my WS or more. highest damage weapons should deal the most damage plain and simple lol.

So SE fix your game, or give us confirmation you plain on overhauling the rest of relics like you said with aegis.

Ukko's Fury won't heal the WAR for 4k, though. >>;

There are good sides to both types of weapons, I'd think.

[Orson]

There's no reason that upgraded Relics/Mythics shouldn't at least be on par with Emp weapons. Also making Relics and Mythics easier to get (which I'm skeptical that they will) isn't really a bad thing again if they're on par with creating Emp weapons. This game is pushing towards a more casual play and that's not a bad thing.

[Delvante]

I would like to see relics a bit more obtainable. There are a lot of people in this game that deserve the relic weapon but are just not able to put forth the time required to do Dynamis or farm all the money necessary to purchase all the coinage and such in order to get their relic done. Me personally, I have a very hard time putting an excessive amount of time into FFXI. Yes I know some would say "well that sucks to be you" and all that but in all honesty, just because my life requires more of my time than others doesn't mean I don't want/deserve on an equal level to have the best weapon in the game. I seriously do hope they make it a bit better to obtain. I'm not saying make it super easy or anything but there are definitely those (myself included) that would like to get their hands on a relic especially after playing for over 7 years, that just can't put forth that kind of time consistently because of work schedule and other life circumstances that dictate an inability to do so. These are my thoughts...

On a side note, I have mad respect and give mad props to those that have theirs, way to go!

[Tempo]

I think relics should be boosted back to the top aswell, a good start would be to boost up the hidden dmg. The 25% relic weapon skill boost was nice but nowere near enough.

It would be nice to get word on this from se at least one way or the other so we know, im aware someone said in this thread it was mentioned on twitter they would be boosting them back to the top but i can't remember reading this unless i went blind haha.

[Alhanelem]

Or actually make some relics actually *gasp* useful (I'm talking to you Claustrum!)

It's a weapon. It's meant ot be used as a weapon. And, as a weapon, it's good. It's particularly good for summoners, though not so much for BLM. I was working on it for a while but never finished (Dynamis Staff, partway to Thyrus), and now I'm getting the empyrean staff for the same reason. There are times when such a thing is useful, if you're set up for it.