Make Relics the best of the best

[Malacite]

How about because Relics were introduced in 2004 and it's silly to still have them as the ceiling for performance?

I think SE is handling the situation just fine. The people who already worked on them can upgrade them and still be relevant while others are better off getting the Empyrean (or in the case of a few jobs Mythic). It's taken us 8 long years to break the strangle hold that Zilart-era gear has had over the game. It's not like any kind of majority of the player base owns a relic or mythic either.

The fact is SE got it (mostly) right this time with Empyreans. They're very powerful (most of them) and a challenge to obtain but still far more accessible than Relics or Mythics ever were. I think SE could ease up on the difficult for the lv 80 stages somewhat but otherwise they're fine. Amanomurakumo is actually relatively equal in terms of power with Masamune at 90, save for Masamune's aftermath.

With the coming adjustments to older content I imagine Relics & Mythics will become easier to get too, so wait and see. Personally I think the 99 versions of all 3 will be mind-blowingly strong.

[AldielQuetz]

I'm bumping this thread because this general view that relics need to relinquish the top spot for newer content is rubbish AND it is a rampant ideology amongst newer players. The TRUTH be told, many relics never were the best weapon in their classes, the WSs always sucked, just suck more now that even better ones have been made(there are exceptions) and we spent literal years of our lives making these just to have something come along after years of loyalty to the game that trumps it by a MILE.

What we need is people to stop arguing that this job doesn't need such-n-such out of some kind of bitterness that their job wasn't getting more attention, or jealousy because their weapon doesn't convey a sense of veteranness if there is such a thing, but to support every jobs desires, every weapons dreams of becoming improved.

Let's stand together to ask SE humbly to improve all jobs, to give us all more support because we are ALL die hard fans if we are still playing this game after 10 years without any graphics upgrades, right? We are ALL worthy of a litlle more attention seeing as how we pay the bills around here, right? We all deserve a better overall experience from the game which a lot of us are still playing from a PLAYSTATION 2 from 10 years ago, right?

We are the loyal. We are the adventurers. Hear us.

[NeoLionheart]

We need more people like Aldiel here.

[Chriscoffey]

I am still trying to figure out how they are so much easier to get when I personally with a few people can get emp. weapons in a day. There is no way you can get a relic/mythic in that amount of time. I agree with Aldiel and apparently SE agrees relics/mythics are in the need as well.

[Scribble]

They all look like straight up damage dealing weapons with little to make them unique aside from a special weaponskill. In some cases this is fine but for non damage dealing classes it would be awesome to see a unique spell or JA on the weapon.

Like this post if you want to see auras added to Relic/Mythic/Empyrean!

Seriously though, the relic weapons need a skin upgrade at the least. I'm a full-time mage, but I can appreciate how DD would want their weapons to stand out.

The timing of a weapons release shouldn't mean anything to it's power. That is the whole purpose of magian trials. I think SE has a chance to get it right this time and I hope they take the opportunity to do it correctly.