Let us trigger yellow or blue weakness in abyssea

[Malamasala]

The thing that summoner gives us that other jobs don't is "hate free"

Hate free is trivial. Who cares if you get 0 hate when you do 500 damage and other jobs do 1000 damage and get hate for that? Even if you, as the Summoner, got all 500 damage worth of hate, the 1000 damage melee would still be tanking. The only moment hate free matters, is when you are the job dealing the highest damage. This will never happen unless you pet burn.

So many people don't understand that and think Summoners somehow are strong with their hate freeness. Of course you can't fool the masses that play other jobs, which is why you won't see them inviting Summoners saying "Hot, hate free damage at bird camp!".

[Dallas]

1) Form pet squads. (I use 2-3)
2) Invite BLM and WAR to die for you.
3) Kill everything.

You weren't designed to play well with the popular kids, you were designed to thrive with the other unpopular kids. RDM, for example, is perfect at staying under avatar hate but above SMN hate. No one said the BLM or WAR have to do anything useful but proc.

[Frodnon]

in case you all forgot, our spirits do have all the proc spells of a blm.

[Razushu]

in case you all forgot, our spirits do have all the proc spells of a blm.

except the -aga IIIs... and the ability to cast them on demand lol

[Kaych]

Spirits have Water V, Blizzard V etc?

[Malamasala]

No, but those are not triggers. (We have banish IV ruining our banish III trigger though)

[Cett]

Just to happily let u all know... Spirits... while not being the most useful things in the world.. have the ability to hit yellow if you get lucky... they can also get Azure kills if they kill with a cast.

Maybe you're all not exploring your capabilities enough..

By the way, Myrkr is amazingly hack in abyssea :P

[Razushu]

Just to happily let u all know... Spirits... while not being the most useful things in the world.. have the ability to hit yellow if you get lucky... they can also get Azure kills if they kill with a cast.

Maybe you're all not exploring your capabilities enough..

By the way, Myrkr is amazingly hack in abyssea :P

Thats one helluva big if though, still the whole point of my posting this topic was to give us something more to offer hunting NMs as I've been (and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone here) passed over on several low man NM runs because I can't proc yellow.

[Dallas]

By the way, Myrkr is amazingly hack in abyssea :P

Now imagine if you actually used it or your avatar to melee, to be three times what you call "hack."

[Dallas]

Oh wow, how do you fit a random Light Spirit casting into your "hack" Sea Daughter/BP/retreat strategy? Of course, you already know to use Cure 5 on the tank, you have to stand with the player between you and the spirit, close enough to hit something with a stick that you won't lift.

Have you managed to duo anything with a MNK with these cures?