Let us trigger yellow or blue weakness in abyssea

[Razushu]

i Know about bp delay- from gear and atma i'm talking about natively a minute is a bit much to wait to do anything hell 45 sec is too much when you consider that once you've BP'ed thats it for the next ~60 secs I can't think of any other job that can only act once a minute

[Suljin]

Depending on what your gear is and sub job, most of the higher level black magic spells have a similar recast, around 40ish seconds.

[Soundwave]

Summoner is imba anyway you look at it honestly. the answer is pretty much time productiveness, people are indeed fools to pass summoner up as a job its very underrated...however other jobs can just preform it better and more effectively. The thing that summoner gives us that other jobs don't is "hate free"

[Karbuncle]

Really.

I'm a SMN, and I'm going to say it. Stop being Selfish. You want Summoner Bloodpacts to be able to proc just so you can feel useful to those Idiots who deny you a spot. in reality all its going to do is bone the Rest of the playerbase into dragging 1 more body to every seal farm if they want to get Yellow "!!".

I understand wanting to feel useful, but maybe finish leveling your WHM. When people say "no SMN" you can call them Morons in RL and punch a wall, but then offer to come WHM.

I hate, Hate, Stupid ignorant players as much as the next person when it comes to their view on "Useless" jobs, But adding another set of Triggers isn't the solution. it will hinder every player in the game except SMNs, and even some SMNs who have other jobs it will hinder, Like me.

I understand your frustration 10 fold, This is just not the solution.

If anything, Just allow Teir IV Bloodpacts to act as weakness triggers like the BLM Teir IV nukes, so they can at least do something.

[Razushu]

Really.

I'm a SMN, and I'm going to say it. Stop being Selfish. You want Summoner Bloodpacts to be able to proc just so you can feel useful to those Idiots who deny you a spot. in reality all its going to do is bone the Rest of the playerbase into dragging 1 more body to every seal farm if they want to get Yellow "!!".

I understand wanting to feel useful, but maybe finish leveling your WHM. When people say "no SMN" you can call them Morons in RL and punch a wall, but then offer to come WHM.

I hate, Hate, Stupid ignorant players as much as the next person when it comes to their view on "Useless" jobs, But adding another set of Triggers isn't the solution. it will hinder every player in the game except SMNs, and even some SMNs who have other jobs it will hinder, Like me.

I understand your frustration 10 fold, This is just not the solution.

If anything, Just allow Teir IV Bloodpacts to act as weakness triggers like the BLM Teir IV nukes, so they can at least do something.

your point of having to bring an extra person is moot as if ur in an alliance theres 18 people running around doing things chances are theres a smn in there anyway and as for low man i've yet to be in a 3~4 group that has WHM BRD NIN BLM and BLU anyway so they'll be missing some proc anyway which says to me people dont mind not rolling a full set of procs to begin with. Giving us tier iv procs would change absolutely nothing because BLM has them AND the rest of the BLM procs, leaving us where we are now.

[Zigou]

Well the solution could be simple....

Get rid of war by example as proc and put smn instead.... and then war will cry

So yes i am 100% for smn proc as pup as any pet job who as been forgotten.


more is better simple, and by the way SE why BP come as physical attack ( iam talking magic BP ),

smn not aloud to farm ligh also ????

So far we are doomed on perle, so much things we got for nothing to do....

So please SE reconsider your smn fellows and give them some fun in abyssea as the other job have too.

[Neonii]

I think smn BP should be able to proc the existing triggers. I have 12 Lieje Lanterns from soloing that NM and still don't have a sash. Every time I join a goup they refuse to proc blue because of his spikes (true story). It would be great to have BP abilities to proc existing triggers.

[Fyreus]

Ever consider the fact that there are those who enjoy smn? That there are many who aren't into mana type jobs but love pets? Or SE is once a-fking-gain pigeon holing invite positions? smn/whm is ok on healing just fine but the company really needs to stop encouraging people to shun certain jobs as do players here. If i have to go heal AGAIN as i did from 1-65 (i soloed to 75) then this game has become a chore.

The smart option would be to start your own group people.

*edit* after landing 7 holys on kharon our whm came back from afk and launched the !! so from experience and this company's history with smn related actions i will call shenanigans on that.

[Dallas]

smn/whm is ok on healing

No, we never have been. SMN has always been 2 levels of healing away from bottom notch AH WHM. If RDM and SCH aren't OK on healing, SMN sure isn't either.

Guess which job is guaranteed to NEVER get Cure 5, even with a subjob?

[Cett]

No, we never have been. SMN has always been 2 levels of healing away from bottom notch AH WHM. If RDM and SCH aren't OK on healing, SMN sure isn't either.

Guess which job is guaranteed to NEVER get Cure 5, even with a subjob?

Summoner has Cure 5, and has always had it since level 70 :P . It was the second job to ever get it, and it also has curaga 4.