Do something about the AH and lower level gear????

[chubrocka]

"PLEASE NOT A FLAME POST. IDEA POST"

THIS POST IS IN "NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM ABOUT GILL OR CRAFTING". PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC!

Title "Do something about the AH and lower level gear???? "it is a question not a statement"


If you choose to talk about gill or crafting, please make another thread. If you have constructive insight on how SE can help with stocking AH's or offering other type gear/items with NPC's please voice it.========================================================================================================================================

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Ive really noticed a lot that the AH; no matter where you are looking anymore is becoming empty. The reason why I am making this post is to open discussion on how we can all fix this. I'm not saying I'm not part of the problem myself. After playing so long and keeping all my low level gear to transfer to another low level job. I dont sell it off anymore to purchase other gear for another job. ( that missing of selling the gear is a big part of not finding it lol) When all of us started new we relied on the AH for what we couldn't craft or farm. Well what is gonna help those who started playing 1-6 months ago. The AH is BARE!!
Should SE make low level gear available (more beyond basic)?
[SIZE="6"]Again I'm asking for responses and ideas to help make the game bring in and KEEP new blood.[/SIZE]

EDIT ""Look here is another edit. Im not a heavy crafter, im not making this post to say i need this or that. I dont care about your thoughts on crafting or making money.. Im asking for ideas on how to make the AH more full on items We as longtime players have had the luxury of using. The AH is bare. I personally have lost RL friends who started playing the game recent to things that shouldnt be resons for leaving.. One is the lack of things on the AH.. How do we fix it is all im asking.. If we dont come up with ideas that are constructive then how can we ask SE to help us, and how do we expect to keep new players interested and giving there money to SE to help keep our passion going???"""EDIT

Chubrocka

[RaenRyong]

Make it profitable for crafters to craft.

If you don't want to pay more money than what is obviously not attracting sales on AH, don't complain!

[Runespider]

I have numerous high level crafts on various chars, I haven't been near a craft synth since a while after the introduction of Abyssea.

Gil isn't anywhere near as needed as it was, so you don't have dedicated crafters crafting to make money. I haven't spent any money on anything at all except shihei for 6-7 months...aside from a handful of NPC bought scrolls (abyssea chest drops sold to npc more than covered these).

Crafting is dead, currently there is very little point to craft or raise one, many basic armor synths were cheap and stocked well on the AH cause they were skillups synths. Taking a craft up now is stupid since aside from the reasons already mentioned, HQ gear is useless and even one of the old reasons people crafted (making signed +1 armor for themselves) is now pointless cause everything you can synth is crap compared to Aby drops.

So many people leech in Abyssea now where you need no gear that demand is way down anyway.

All these things together means they need to make a new sub category on the AH for NPC sold armors, they aren't screwing the crafters cause nobody makes them or cares anymore. If they destroy the need for gil, allow very popular leeching and kill crafting they need to fix it so players can actually get gear from the NPCs and for the prices to not be stupid high.

[chubrocka]

Make it profitable for crafters to craft.

If you don't want to pay more money than what is obviously not attracting sales on AH, don't complain!

So this is what?? Dont complain? This thread is for ideas not flaming.

[Ayasha]

It's not a flame, it's the truth. Crafters won't make something that isn't worth their time to make. It's simple economics. Demand is low for low tier items, so there's no necessity or incentive to make them. If all you want is for SE to make it easy for you to obtain low level gear, you're barking up the wrong tree. There's two options available: Make it yourself, or offer crafters something worth their while to spend their time to make said item.

There's also PLENTY of alternatives to the AH out there. Bounding Boots and Empress Hairpin (for example) for almost all jobs that can use, and get use out of them will wear them up to the point where the next stage of rare/ex gear is available. AF gear is easy to get, and free (for the most part). And there's plenty of Rare - Rare/Ex weapons that are relatively easy to obtain. The way to fix things isn't to make it EASIER to get gear. The fault falls on the player base for not wanting to put forth the effort to get what they want.

[chubrocka]

It's not a flame, it's the truth. Crafters won't make something that isn't worth their time to make. It's simple economics. Demand is low for low tier items, so there's no necessity or incentive to make them. If all you want is for SE to make it easy for you to obtain low level gear, you're barking up the wrong tree. There's two options available: Make it yourself, or offer crafters something worth their while to spend their time to make said item.

There's also PLENTY of alternatives to the AH out there. Bounding Boots and Empress Hairpin (for example) for almost all jobs that can use, and get use out of them will wear them up to the point where the next stage of rare/ex gear is available. AF gear is easy to get, and free (for the most part). And there's plenty of Rare - Rare/Ex weapons that are relatively easy to obtain. The way to fix things isn't to make it EASIER to get gear. The fault falls on the player base for not wanting to put forth the effort to get what they want.

Jesus christ. What is wrong with you people.. This isnt a bash on anything thread, its not even a CRAFTING thread, its an idea thread to help solve the issue for new players who dont have the same beginnings players have had for years. Get off the crap and come up with IDEAS on how to make it better. No BS of lazy or effort or anything like that. 5 years ago AH was FULL. AH is a ghost town now. I want to play this game for many more years and if we dont find ways to solve things then we will lose the new blood and all of players who have been around since the beginning will have to find another game to play.

[viion]

I really think SE should make an NPC in each of the dedicated areas to sell gear around that level.

For example:
Nations 1-30?
Selbina/Mhaura 10-20
Jeuno 20-50
Norg/Rabao etc 50-60.
and so on

Make them affordable, but reduce the sellable price so people cant exploit.

I find it very difficult to get gear as a new player.

[chubrocka]

I really think SE should make an NPC in each of the dedicated areas to sell gear around that level.

For example:
Nations 1-30?
Selbina/Mhaura 10-20
Jeuno 20-50
Norg/Rabao etc 50-60.
and so on

Make them affordable, but reduce the sellable price so people cant exploit.

I find it very difficult to get gear as a new player.

Thank you for your response and input. To me being a longtime player I like to hear what it will be needed to help keep newer player.... I just hope SE WILL READ IT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT lol ( hope caps made it easier to see for them lol)

[Vold]

Jesus christ. What is wrong with you people.. This isnt a bash on anything thread, its not even a CRAFTING thread, its an idea thread to help solve the issue for new players who dont have the same beginnings players have had for years. Get off the crap and come up with IDEAS on how to make it better. No BS of lazy or effort or anything like that. 5 years ago AH was FULL. AH is a ghost town now. I want to play this game for many more years and if we dont find ways to solve things then we will lose the new blood and all of players who have been around since the beginning will have to find another game to play.

Your attitude isn't going to help things. You should also follow your own rule of no flaming if you're going to make the rule, which BTW so far you are the only one bashing and flaming. People are telling you, give us a reason to craft the items to fix your problem, and we will. And there is no reason because there's not enough new players to buy the items. Every time I try to sell off skill up items, they never sell so I just end up selling to vendor. The alternative solution is there, SE just needs to lower some prices that were obviously jacked to motivate AH use. Armor and weapon NPCs are everywhere.

New players will have to get over being well geared and just use the standard armors and weapons that they can't obtain from a crafter and NM. If someone gives them crap, give that someone crap right back for not stocking the AH. You're using whatever the hell you can get your hands on. It's not hard to defend yourself for using less than stellar gear these days at level 30. Then, the higher level they get the better off they'll be for AH options. The only reason the AH stayed active all those years for low level armors is because of skill up items, not because crafters were making money. That's not the case anymore and without proper guidance a newbie is just going to quit out of frustration when they're preached to about advanced game mechanics that they shouldn't really even be worried about for some time still.

The only idea I can come up with that isn't stupid is for a NPC to sell whatever it buys from us. It's not worth putting up an item time and again until a rare to see newbie finally picks it up. So let the NPC take care of the problem of getting gear into newbie hands. We're selling off the items already as is to NPCs so we don't need a massive increase in price, but what would be nice is for the weapon and armor NPCs to pay more than others so we are motivated to sell to them and it'll be really simple and easy to tell a person to go to the armor and weapon shop for their needs. They're always marked on the map. It also makes sense that a weapon NPC would pay more for an item that interests them than John Doe down the street that deals with cooking would pay. As a matter of fact John Doe cooker should never actually pay period for a weapon but that's a whole other debate of what makes sense and player willingness to run out of their way to sell stuff.

[chubrocka]

The only idea I can come up with that isn't stupid is for a NPC to sell whatever it buys from us. It's not worth putting up an item time and again until a rare to see newbie finally picks it up. So let the NPC take care of the problem of getting gear into newbie hands. We're selling off the items already as is to NPCs so we don't need a massive increase in price, but what would be nice is for the weapon and armor NPCs to pay more than others so we are motivated to sell to them and it'll be really simple and easy to tell a person to go to the armor and weapon shop for their needs. They're always marked on the map. It also makes sense that a weapon NPC would pay more for an item that interests them than John Doe down the street that deals with cooking would pay. As a matter of fact John Doe cooker should never actually pay period for a weapon but that's a whole other debate of what makes sense and player willingness to run out of their way to sell stuff.

Now this part of your posting is very good and its an idea on how to fix the issue that so many new players are running into