To the devs: Why won't you nerf summoner?

[Shiyo]

Expecting the entire game to be redesigned because your ONE JOB completely bypasses the entire games mechanics and ignores 100% of boss mechanics is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen on a MMORPG forum. Actually, what's more absurd is people are UPVOTING your posts, which is just depressing, but I guess it makes sense, MMO players are attracted to easymode gear/zero difficulty jobs/playstyles.

Your job is broken, it needs to be gutted. Classes shouldn't be able to safely DPS from range ignoring 100% of a bosses mechanics while also being able to do the most damage in the entire game.

Your job is LITERALLY more effective and powerful than using a brew, that speaks volumes about how truly broken SMN is.

[Selindrile]

MMO players are attracted to easymode gear/zero difficulty jobs/playstyles.

So, you'd rather FFXI be less attractive to MMO players.... think about that for a second.

[Frodnon]

Expecting the entire game to be redesigned because your ONE JOB completely bypasses the entire games mechanics and ignores 100% of boss mechanics is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen on a MMORPG forum. Actually, what's more absurd is people are UPVOTING your posts, which is just depressing, but I guess it makes sense, MMO players are attracted to easymode gear/zero difficulty jobs/playstyles.

Your job is broken, it needs to be gutted. Classes shouldn't be able to safely DPS from range ignoring 100% of a bosses mechanics while also being able to do the most damage in the entire game.

Your job is LITERALLY more effective and powerful than using a brew, that speaks volumes about how truly broken SMN is.

I'm wanting the core game to be fixed because there are issues with it that led to our current situation. Fix the problems of the game instead of simply chasing the symptoms of those issues.


just nerfing smn into the dirt won't fix the fact that melee DD are considered garbage in 90% of cases against endgame. Just removing HP scaling mechanics alone from Geas Fete mobs would balance it so other party member heavy setups could compete on even ground.
Hell, tweaking schah so he spawns with a pet up would stop burning him (or at least make it much more complicated).

[Shiyo]

I'm wanting the core game to be fixed because there are issues with it that led to our current situation. Fix the problems of the game instead of simply chasing the symptoms of those issues.


just nerfing smn into the dirt won't fix the fact that melee DD are considered garbage in 90% of cases against endgame. Just removing HP scaling mechanics alone from Geas Fete mobs would balance it so other party member heavy setups could compete on even ground.
Hell, tweaking schah so he spawns with a pet up would stop burning him (or at least make it much more complicated).

Is this post from 2015? Melee DD"s have been good for 2 years now, omen made them even beter.

[Nyarlko]

Is this post from 2015? Melee DD"s have been good for 2 years now, omen made them even beter.

Why are you complaining about SMN then? >_>;;

I'm gonna laugh my butt off if allllll of this argument comes down to a matter of kill-speed alone being the primary point of contention. Let me ask you this: If the durations on all the nasty spammed debuffs in Escha zones were reduced to 10sec, and direct damage from them reduced to a point unlikely to one-shot melee players, would there be any legitimate reasons to complain about SMN? Honestly, at that point, I'd say it comes down to healer quality rather than who's dealing the damage. If that's still too much for an average WHM to handle, that sounds like healing is what needs the attention rather than calling for nerfs to SMN.