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    Quote Originally Posted by GAbrielKross View Post
    won't happen. Main reason is, it would require more work than creating an entirely new game. The vast majority of the jobs available in FFXI don't exist in FFXIV, even then none of them work the same way they do in FFXI. So no, this is not even slightly possible.
    Back then, they say impossible to FF7 remake and here we are with remake in development. lol
    (funny thing is... I'm actually one of many who was against the remake. )

    Still crossing fingers... XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    Back then, they say impossible to FF7 remake and here we are with remake in development. lol
    (funny thing is... I'm actually one of many who was against the remake. )

    Still crossing fingers... XD
    No, what you're asking for and what you're comparing it to are on two entirely different levels. Do you know how much negative backlash Drk mains in FFXI would put up if they were to transfer their characters to FFXIV. This would be one of the worst things SE could do with the properties. The same would happen with FFXI's Nin mains. FFXIV's system is just too different to port characters from FFXI into there is a reason that there are a lot of diehard FFXI fans that can't stand FFXIV. So no what you wanted will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAbrielKross View Post
    No, what you're asking for and what you're comparing it to are on two entirely different levels. Do you know how much negative backlash Drk mains in FFXI would put up if they were to transfer their characters to FFXIV. This would be one of the worst things SE could do with the properties. The same would happen with FFXI's Nin mains. FFXIV's system is just too different to port characters from FFXI into there is a reason that there are a lot of diehard FFXI fans that can't stand FFXIV. So no what you wanted will never happen.
    again, there's Dissidia, where Shantoto & Prishe made their crossover. There's also Record Keepers, Brave Exvius, etc which also has their crossovers. lol

    In fact, Kingdom Hearts alone are IMO an impossible crossover. And yet... here we are, living with their franchise spanning 2 decades.

    As for FF14 itself, it already has crossover with Yokai Watch, and now-ongoing GARO franchise.

    I do understand you concern regarding gameplay mechanic, but that wasn't what I'm even suggesting in first place. In fact, I kinda prefer gameplay mechanic stay within each series. What I'm suggesting is on the story side, that's all! If you haven't played FF14, I'll just inform you that there's past event where Shantoto and even Iroha made their entrance there. And surprisingly, it's not just another cameo. Especially with Iroha, her involvement were kinda make sense when you think about what happened in Rhapsodies between chapter 2 & 3 story. She even has dialogues that suggested my counterpart on both Vana'diel & Eorzea are one and the same (which I am XD ).

    There's also 2 (or 3 figures) to mention here. One is Gilgamesh. No, not the one in FF11 I'm afraid, but the FF5 ones which I believed crossed many worlds, and I even believe his existence in current Eorzea are one and the same with his original FF5 appearance, tho some may differs. And another is Cloud of Darkness and the Void which serves as the main villain for Rhapsodies. The Void itself can be said as concurrent major villain for almost every FF series. Heck... it may be suggested that (almost) every FF realms was connected to this entity in some way, which I believe was one of the basis behind Dissidia storyline. I haven't played far with Dissidia myself, so I can't be certain, but the Void has been referenced alot from various info I read.

    So in the end, yes, I'm still crossing my fingers since SE did make the impossible possible. lol
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    What you're asking for is not a crossover. You're asking to import incompatible characters into a game that can't handle them. Out of the 22 available jobs in FFXI you get less than half in FFXIV, even then they do not work the same. Either FFXIV would have to be completely overhauled or you would have to give up the majority of your jobs and accept that the ones you have left are not the same as they used to be. Literally nobody wants the second option, and Square Enix will not do the other option. Like I said this is not a crossover so stop comparing it to them.

    Even if you only consider it on a story aspect, there is no way to do this. Iroha and Shantotto are two universal NPCs that have crossed dimensional barriers before in FFXI, so it would make sense to allow them to be used in crossover events. However, player characters can not and will not make story appearance. For one you have an entire race that would get excluded. Two, you don't realize how much extra effort it would be to program the game to base the character on the player's preference. Three, many FFXIV players never played FFXI so having FFXI influence the story at all would exclude them. Four, Shantotto and Iroha didn't even influence the story, they were not story impacting crossovers. It was a special event the same as the Lightning event, optional fate quests. There will never be a crossover that impacts the main story line. Your last point about Iroha is just a fan service to players who play both games, it has no actual impact on the world of Eorzea and will never have an impact.

    As to Gilgamesh, in many games he is just a summon, so he should not be included. Side note, of course it's the same Gilgamesh in FFXIV, it was intended to be. It was a crossover side-quest the same as Crystal Tower. As for Cloud of Darkness, Square Enix likes to re-use villains to some degree, but they have to make sense within the context. Cloud of Darkness was reused in FFXI it was not a crossover. You could more logically say it was a crossover in FFXIV since Crystal Tower is literally a crossover side-story that surprise doesn't impact the main story.

    So as I've said and will continue to say, it will never happen.
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    i would like to see them make a new expansion that in itself is a 2.0 of the game with problems from this game fixed, then have the settings of a new continent or even a whole new world via Atomos. Have it that you can then "transfer" your character over for this whole new experience then use the same system to allows players to travel to 1.0 areas to complete quests.

    Not sure but might be a MMO first to have an expansion as an actual game.
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    as a heads up, ff11 mobile version (Which is still in creation) would probably be a 2.0 or something since its mechanics wouldn't work the same as a normal ff11 game and i doubt it'd be connected directly too ff11, however if it is, its probably limited in terms of battle content etc
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    There is nothing stopping them from making FFXI-2 as their next MMORPG except themselves. SE has proven they have a short attention span for MMOs. I doubt that will improve for a FFXI-2. They will go new, all the way. It'd be easier for a person to pass through the eye of needle than for SE to swallow spending money and resources on another vana'diel adventure. You would need their employees to develop the game on the side in their spare time, for free, with maybe a promise to be allowed to cash in on their work when the game went live. That's basically the only way FFXI-2 will ever happen :x It'd probably take 12 years to make.

    *shrug* I don't know. They are doing VII remake. They might do a XI-2 but I can guarantee you it'd be so different that you'd hardly recognize it. They'll probably start with the far east and expand from there with references to the zones in XI. We'd probably never get to see them. They may as well do something entirely new for the next MMO, but more like XI and less like the disaster XIV is. If you combine the best elements in both games it'd make for an epic masterpiece, and by best elements I mean XIV's crafting and then everything else FFXI ._.
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    I think it would be cool to have an offline sequel where you play as Iroha, maybe do what SE did with the KH games and make a sort of theater mode that shows the events of FFXI so people can see the story. I don't think it will happen, nut you never know, could even be a way to draw some new or returning players to FFXI.
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    The only way we'll get an FFXI-2 is if it will be as an Expansion to FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraniku View Post
    The only way we'll get an FFXI-2 is if it will be as an Expansion to FFXIV.
    Which would be depressing.

    They could however use the luminious branch they used for XIV for updating XI if SE supplied the funding. But I'm sure they rather fund FFXVI project that includes 72 games and 80 mobile games they'll cancel in the first year or prolong development for 10-12 years long before they even think of updating the one project that's earned them the most revenue overtime.
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