Dual Wield yes,please

[Xilk]

talking about game balance, then wtf has SE done to dnc.
its totally overpowered.
nin/dnc or dnc/nin can solo almost everything >.>
75 Evasion Bonus III
(75) Closed Position (Merit)
77 Conserve TP
77 Tactical Parry
80 Critical Attack Bonus
80 Dual Wield IV
80 Accuracy Bonus III
84 Skillchain Bonus IV
85~90 Subtle Blow IV
~90? Critical Attack Bonus II

way too many usefull job traits at 75+, dnc has everything it needs at 75+.

and with DW I i would have to sacrifice 15% DW

Red herring troll. maybe you like to move this to other section of forum.

I'm surprised to see the team "mainstream bst" in this thread too. I didn't know there was such a thing. I'll need some proof cuz I really don't think it exists. :P

bst has so many soloers that we like doing things differently. "you don't like the way I play? Fine, I'll go solo it. bye-bye!"

sounds more like bst to me... I also can't help but remember a sig file in alla forums about bst not really being lolled at because of MpK :P.

[Kensagaku]

Not really, the game balance is still there. A decent BST can solo things even without dual axes just as easily as DNC or NIN/DNC can. In fact, we can still solo things that they can't without too much trouble. I've seen testimonies of people soloing Dragua on BST, no brew. When a DNC or NIN/DNC can do that, show me, I'd love to learn so I can solo those cards on my NIN.

The point is that every game has its niche. BST already has a lot of power and potential to it without needing Dual Wield, enabling them to solo a lot of powerful monsters that most jobs would have trouble soloing short of brewing it. We don't need Dual Wield, we've got plenty as it is.

[Glamdring]

please for the love of God someone drop an H-bomb on this thread

[Kensagaku]

It was dying just fine 'til you bumped it...

[Raksha]

EDIT: nvm yeah just let it die.

[Alukat]

ninja has GK & h2h too.......

[Urat]

Dual wield makes way more sense for dancer than blu hands down.

Dancer is the most tp reliant job in the game, dual wield is the biggest supply of tp in the game. Blue is an mp reliant job, therefor dual wield makes less sense for it.

I don't think either jobs should have gotten dual wield though, since the dawn of ffxi dual wield was Ninja's thing, it's half the reason you went /nin

I'd hate to see ffxi turn into WoW, where every job slowly begins to become the same as others, until eventually you're either a DD job, a tanking job, or a healing job.

Ninja has dual wield because that's ninja's thing. Everyone else stop whining to ask for DW and just sub ninja. You may as well start whining that you don't get a pet to fight with you but pet jobs do, and you don't have a way to heal yourself so you want a cure spell, and you don't have a way to manage hate so you want a voke.

Job's are different in ffxi for a reason, if you don't like your job go level something else.

[Zaknafein]

Dear Alukat,

Before asking the development team to expend resources making bst have a natural DW trait you might want to actually take the afternoon, or at the most the 5days to a week to level DNC to 49. You've spoken at length in this thread about how /dnc isn't a viable option yet your's sits unopened. I'll agree that /nin for bst nowadays has lost it's usefulness since dnc received DW naturally. /nin affords DW3 being it's only truly useful advantage over /dnc. With the use of snarl you should spend very little time taking hits. Unless your trying to proc yellow with /nin your options with /dnc are far more favorable.

Curing Waltzes for yourself, party members, your npc. Healing Waltz. Debuffs to enemies Eva, Def, Magic Eva. Haste Samba for yourself, and your party. Spectral Jig(while the duration is atrocious) allows for gil free snk/invisi. Violent flourish for stuns. All of these are incredibly useful for both solo, and party situations.

Basically what I'm asking is at least take the time to try out all viable options for a job you play before asking the dev team to spend time adding things to a job. I would like to think that a player with a relic like yourself takes the time, and goes the extra mile to leave no stone unturned in their testing of playstyles. If you'd like to see Bst/Dnc in action, and what it's capable of drop me a /tell in game sometime.

[Alukat]

i know what bst/dnc is capable of, i always duo with one >.>
dnc was the worst thing SE could ever do to FFxi stun/cure/debuffs who needs rdms whms and blms anymore? aside of proc.
i think /dnc makes bst way to overpowered that's why i don't level it. i like challenges.
i need approx 10-15 seconds to get 100+tp so with this fast tp build do u think something could kill me?
well and no stone unturned in playstyle, i would really love to try new ways as bst and other subs, but i either had to sacrifice my 100tp-bonus or occ. 2-4 attack axe. this is why other subs aside from nin/dnc/whm aren't used. that's why i want a natural dual wield for bst.

[Urat]

If anything maybe I'd be fine with all jobs being able to dual wield, BUT without the dual wield trait itself you wouldn't get the substantial -delay. In other words all you'd get from DWing is extra stats from the offhand, you'd swing twice per round but twice as slow.