Dual Wield yes,please

[Flunklesnarkin]

Rather you like it or not he's right. We can't just dish out Dual Wield to every single 1-handed DD. It doesn't fit the job, It barely fits DNC or THF.

You have to make a choice, magic of /WHM or /SCH, or extra PDT Axe or w/e for /NIN.

I'm a 90BST myself, And i think this idea is simply silly, You can't want something just cause "its easier" or w/e the excuse is. by that logic we should just give all the WARs, DRGs, and 2handed DD Store TP V Job Traits, and Hasso/Seigan/Third Eye without subbing SAM.

Etc etc.

Now, That being said, a Ring or something that "Grants" Dual wield (Not even Dual Wield 1, I'm talking just being able to equip weapons, 0 Delay reduction), Would not be too bad. However, For the sake of Balance, Make it called "Double Wield" a separate Job Trait, Where it offers no bonus to Attack speed, and Dual Wield Gear does not help it.

If you truly want Dual wield just to be able to use dual axes for PDT on BST, Then something like the above would be a good suggestion. its realistic, and balanced.

That sounds like a pretty good suggestion ..

an item that grants "double wield"

which is pretty much dual wield without any delay reduction or even adds a delay penalty to keep things balanced

[Xilk]

I don't think any change to dual wield should be made. even if its an item and no delay reduction.

[Glamdring]

SE, just give every job in the game Dual Wield 5 so people will shut up about this! While we're at it they all need Reraise III, A+ evasion and permanent refresh/regen for at least 10/tic so they never have to rest...

seriously, there is no conceivable reason to have this native. if you don't want to /nin or /dnc then get a tatami shield, the thing will save your life several times over when you solo.

[Flunklesnarkin]

SE, just give every job in the game Dual Wield 5 so people will shut up about this! While we're at it they all need Reraise III, A+ evasion and permanent refresh/regen for at least 10/tic so they never have to rest...

seriously, there is no conceivable reason to have this native. if you don't want to /nin or /dnc then get a tatami shield, the thing will save your life several times over when you solo.

I think reraise 3 might be a bit much for everyjob.. why not just reraise 2 ;o

[guinness]

Isn't this like saying they should give BST the teleport spells and mp native. I mean why can't I just have teleport all around while I'm /<insert sub> whenever I want.

[Areola]

There is no way to imply what bst is. its always seemed to be general knowledge that bst allows the player to decide how they want to play it(Just look at the bst only gear with MP on it). There is no reason for bst to have duel-weld, but i don't see any reason for bst not to have it.

Idk maybe i just don't see duel-weld as something special, or like its something a job should hold dear because its what makes that job unique(i never have). All it is to me is holding two weapons. To be competently honest if bst got duel-weld native i would still sub dancer for the most part. It just fits my play style.

For the record i don't think bst needs duel-weld i just think it would be cool to have.

[Xilk]

There is no way to imply what bst is. its always seemed to be general knowledge that bst allows the player to decide how they want to play it(Just look at the bst only gear with MP on it). There is no reason for bst to have duel-weld, but i don't see any reason for bst not to have it.

Idk maybe i just don't see duel-weld as something special, or like its something a job should hold dear because its what makes that job unique(i never have). All it is to me is holding two weapons. To be competently honest if bst got duel-weld native i would still sub dancer for the most part. It just fits my play style.

For the record i don't think bst needs duel-weld i just think it would be cool to have.

BST is a warrior who puts as much value and energy into beasts and creatures as he does into one's one fighting strength and skill. That does not lead to wielding weapons with both hands. Ninja, dancer and theif are all very dextrous and have use of developing such skill. it is natural. bluemage just steals all abilities and traits from others.

If the jobs were what you want them to be, we would have a system like in ff10 or ff12 where you can just level until you have everything. FF11 is not like this. Support jobs give us alot of flexibility, but jobs are roles are defined.

[Flunklesnarkin]

BST is a warrior who puts as much value and energy into beasts and creatures as he does into one's one fighting strength and skill. That does not lead to wielding weapons with both hands. Ninja, dancer and theif are all very dextrous and have use of developing such skill. it is natural. bluemage just steals all abilities and traits from others.

If the jobs were what you want them to be, we would have a system like in ff10 or ff12 where you can just level until you have everything. FF11 is not like this. Support jobs give us alot of flexibility, but jobs are roles are defined.

That's your opinion.. and you're wrong

[Areola]

In ff3 all the jobs could duel-weld, and FF10 is my favorite FF game . I'm sorry that was way off topic.

[Xilk]

That's your opinion.. and you're wrong

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