Dev Input Requested: Macc/Meva Changes

[Mithlas]

I know the patch notes specifically states Reisenjima, Escha, and SoA area - however will this hopefully include HTBF fights and Unity NMs in a future patch? They are ilvl mobs and as such are going to be affected by the nerf in GEO abilities.

[Songen]

they buffed bard to compensate for geo's nerf, mobs that are now one shoting partys need to be compensated with sherzo or smn's earthen ward, also carol's got a boost as well

[Domille]

No, every single mob in the game should not require Scherzo and earthen ward. that's retarded.

Vex and attune need to be put back to where they were.

Adding another job is not an acceptable answer when more hp is added because of it.

[Obysuca]

No, every single mob in the game should not require Scherzo and earthen ward. that's retarded.

Vex and attune need to be put back to where they were.

But isn't that the same thing as how before, every single mob needed a geo? >_>

[Aysha]

No, every single mob in the game should not require Scherzo and earthen ward. that's retarded.

Vex and attune need to be put back to where they were.

Adding another job is not an acceptable answer when more hp is added because of it.

So it's retarded that Scherzo and Earthen Ward is required for "Every single mob" (I agree), but yet it is NOT retarded that Vex and Attune is required?

LOL?

How does that logic even work?

[Domille]

So it's retarded that Scherzo and Earthen Ward is required for "Every single mob" (I agree), but yet it is NOT retarded that Vex and Attune is required?

LOL?

How does that logic even work?

NEEDING vex attune wasnt a good option either. But it at least worked. This does not.

[detlef]

So it's retarded that Scherzo and Earthen Ward is required for "Every single mob" (I agree), but yet it is NOT retarded that Vex and Attune is required?

LOL?

How does that logic even work?

Vex and Attunement weren't even really required. Just Vex on its own helped a lot. It really does feel like we've gone from "You always need to bring X" to "You always need to bring X, Y, and Z."

[Nyarlko]

Adding another job is not an acceptable answer when more hp is added because of it.

In that case, perhaps you can start calling for nerfs to the HP scaling involved in GF NMs. ^^ I think it would be a good thing if the group+1 penalty was lowered in general, or scaled itself so that taking a large group wasn't as painful as it is now when compared to smaller groups. I believe that the ideal would be for difficulty/killtime to be roughly equivalent regardless of group size. If this were the case, would you still be opposed to adding more jobs to the group?

[Songen]

if you read what they wrote as the reason why they lowered it, geo spells m acc and m eva were bugged completely, it wasn't a nerf, but a bugg that wasn't detected., it was that the calculation was wrong completely from what they originally intended because it calculated twice at a second point instead of once, they returned it to the original intended value and removed the bug ,

Fact is, people would have made different tactics to begin with had the original value been there instead of the lower value, i personally made a sink about it myself on a magic acc page prior to the update but realised a originally intend value fix isn't something i should be complaining about. DEAL WITH IT, MOVE ON.

Mobs didn't gain any hp, infact it was lowered for the stated areas. both combat and magic skills were lowered on mobs in stated areas

[Domille]

They werent bugged. That's a bs lie they tell to stop you from pitchforking. A bug wouldn't persist for 3 entire years. Get serious.

It's a straight nerf.