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    Player Songen's Avatar
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    Vagary is ment to be hard to learn, they tried to atleast keep some stuff hard, its only because more escha/reisei content opened up new armor for survival, trusts and more positional mobs being in escha/reisei. however some of the original spells like thunderbolt from behemoth was hard at 99, however with ilvl119 and now can spam the shit outta it in more than only a few locations
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    Player Hawklaser's Avatar
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    Loftythoughts
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    Siren
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    DRG Lv 99
    As someone that recently returned, and would need to go learn some more blue spells thought would stop in here. I don't recall many spells being hard to learn. The hard ones were always the extremely limited mobs, such as bcnm battlefield only usage ones, or trying to get refueling in misarux coast while CoP was still level capped.

    So just a lil curious as to if my old method will still be very effective. Fight mob normally until it is at a point can reliably kill asap if needed, then use multihit spells like bludgeon to feed it tp if it has not used spell I am after, once uses any tp move at this point kill and find a fresh mob to repeat. Only ones I ever let sit there and rebuild tp are those in extremely limited supply. Often targeted DC leveled mobs so they lasted a lil bit, yet could easily kill.
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    Player Traxus's Avatar
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    Traxus
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    Sylph
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    MNK Lv 99
    It's not a question of being able to learn spells from missions in general, you can't learn the SoA ones (cesspool, tearing gust) because the mobs that use them don't actually die when you fight them, you just get warped out/put into a cutscene when they get to low hp.
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    Player Dzspdref's Avatar
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    Danallen
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    Asura
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    PUP Lv 99
    Biggest mistake I remember reading about from when BLU was originally released is that people "turn away" from the mob to let it get TP hitting them. Then the mob does the Ability and then the player turns back towards the mob hopefully fast enough to kill it. Somewhere in the cutscenes and dialogue one of the main BLU NPCs says something about "... how you are learning it from them and the more you watch their actions the more you shall learn..." implying that you need to be facing the mob (looking at it) when the target does the ability you want to learn. Also the faster you kill it after it performs the ability affects the % of learning it too.
    . I know you can still learn it other way by facing askew, but I remember reading in the Q&A they had very early on that the dev team replied that the rate of learning the spell, if you're not facing the target, dropped drastically, and the longer you wait to kill it lowered the learning rate, too.
    . Hope that helped even a tiny bit, because they can be a P.I.T.A. to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzspdref View Post
    Biggest mistake I remember reading about from when BLU was originally released is that people "turn away" from the mob to let it get TP hitting them. Then the mob does the Ability and then the player turns back towards the mob hopefully fast enough to kill it. Somewhere in the cutscenes and dialogue one of the main BLU NPCs says something about "... how you are learning it from them and the more you watch their actions the more you shall learn..." implying that you need to be facing the mob (looking at it) when the target does the ability you want to learn. Also the faster you kill it after it performs the ability affects the % of learning it too.
    . I know you can still learn it other way by facing askew, but I remember reading in the Q&A they had very early on that the dev team replied that the rate of learning the spell, if you're not facing the target, dropped drastically, and the longer you wait to kill it lowered the learning rate, too.
    . Hope that helped even a tiny bit, because they can be a P.I.T.A. to learn.
    Unless you can pull up that Q&A, I'm betting you are misremembering something and that it was a "planned" aspect that was not implemented. I've never had any problem learning blue magic while facing away from the target, and have done the process on 3x characters.
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