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    Player OmnysValefor's Avatar
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    People act like this game hasn't depended on support jobs since Bard's inception.

    The difference between having a bard, or eventually cor, and not having one or three was quite often the decision between win/loss and that was back when gear haste was a token stat and mp was as precious as gold.
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    Last edited by OmnysValefor; 12-26-2016 at 09:48 AM.

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    Player Domille's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    People act like this game hasn't depended on support jobs since Bard's inception.

    The difference between having a bard, or eventually for, and not having one or three was quite often the decision between win/loss and that was back when gear haste was a token stat and mp was as precious as gold.
    No ones forgotten, but those days are over. The game has gone so casual. The same rules don't apply anymore.

    Gimmicks are the only thing that stops everyone from doing everything in game.
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    Last edited by Domille; 12-26-2016 at 09:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domille View Post
    No ones forgotten, but those days are over. The game has gone so casual. The same rules don't apply anymore.

    Gimmicks are the only thing that stops everyone from doing everything in game.
    This doesn't mean anything. The game changed, but a lot of things stayed the same.

    Should we also complain about the fact that we need a WHM for every advanced boss? What about Tanks? Supports are integral to FFXI battle system for advanced content. Well, stats buffing support like BRD/COR/GEO are. Only BRD is lagging behind.

    You don't need a GEO to do most "casual" content. You don't even need support to begin with!
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    Last edited by Jin_Uzuki; 12-26-2016 at 09:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin_Uzuki View Post
    This doesn't mean anything. The game changed, but a lot of things stayed the same.

    Should we also complain about the fact that we need a WHM for every advanced boss? What about Tanks? Supports are integral to FFXI battle system for advanced content. Well, stats buffing support like BRD/COR/GEO are. Only BRD is lagging behind.

    You don't need a GEO to do most "casual" content. You don't even need support to begin with!
    Geo is a self full filling cycle.

    You HAVE to take GEO because GEO exists. ALL mobs have extra def/att/macc/mab/hp BECAUSE GEO exists. Every mob is designed with certain numbers in mind, then they have to double those numbers for every single one, because if they don't they'll die in 5 seconds.

    GEO completely ruined the balance. (not that it was great to begin with).

    Even for low content if you don't take GEO you're only slowing yourself down.
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    Last edited by Domille; 12-26-2016 at 10:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    People act like this game hasn't depended on support jobs since Bard's inception.

    The difference between having a bard, or eventually cor, and not having one or three was quite often the decision between win/loss and that was back when gear haste was a token stat and mp was as precious as gold.
    You didn't require a bard to land debuffs.
    You didn't require a bard to not die to AOE/not get perpetually aoe statused.

    A bard didn't auto-cap your pdif or remove 100% of the enemies magical defenses.
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