To the devs: Why won't you nerf Geomancer?

[Rwolf]

I think Shiyo meant GEOs typical support jobs are RDM and WHM. So if Haste is required you can Indi/Geo-Haste + Haste spell from sub to hit magical haste cap. Bubbles stack independently of everything else.

[Nyarlko]

I think Shiyo meant GEOs typical support jobs are RDM and WHM. So if Haste is required you can Indi/Geo-Haste + Haste spell from sub to hit magical haste cap. Bubbles stack independently of everything else.

Becomes a moot point tho if your party's GEO refuses to cast it on anyone, which is the most common situation that I run into.

Yeah, but GEO spot??? No one in the days thought "I'm getting a BRD or RDM?" They were completely different kind of supports.

And yet, the bread n' butter party setup has not changed much from day1. Tank + healer + support + 3x DD (of some sort) has always been the go-to setup because it makes sense. There are exceptions/variations of course depending on what your target/goal is, but that is our foundation. The fact that that IS still the baseline means that we are all essentially competing for the same support spot. And the fact that most groups looking for the 2x support setup would prefer to take GEO+GEO over GEO+RDM or GEO+BRD should be seen as an indication that BRD/RDM both need buffs.

[Diavolo]

Becomes a moot point tho if your party's GEO refuses to cast it on anyone, which is the most common situation that I run into.

That's not a problem with the game or the job, it's a problem with the players. If you're asking them to cast Haste and they refuse simply tell them you'll look for someone else that can tackle that oh-so-demanding task.

[Jin_Uzuki]

Becomes a moot point tho if your party's GEO refuses to cast it on anyone, which is the most common situation that I run into.



And yet, the bread n' butter party setup has not changed much from day1. Tank + healer + support + 3x DD (of some sort) has always been the go-to setup because it makes sense. There are exceptions/variations of course depending on what your target/goal is, but that is our foundation. The fact that that IS still the baseline means that we are all essentially competing for the same support spot. And the fact that most groups looking for the 2x support setup would prefer to take GEO+GEO over GEO+RDM or GEO+BRD should be seen as an indication that BRD/RDM both need buffs.

Honestly, I'm not sure what you are trying to say. RDM will never ever compete with BRD, GEO and COR unless it's severely redesigned from scratch. I never heard of anyone getting a RDM instead of a COR and BRD. It's literally not an option from most people.


It's a completely different kind of support that these days is completely useless because MP are no longer an issue, everyone has haste and convert, etc. GEO could be nerfed to the ground and people would still not get a RDM. They would still get a GEO or a BRD or a COR.


The Job doesn't need a buff as much it needs to be redesigned or at least made more similar to SCH.