BLU Balance

[Shiyo]

Going to add to this since people think blu has "Trade offs" and can't "do everything at once".
Here's a video of a person being a healer, tank, DD, aoe sleeper, and self buffer(capping his own magic haste) ALL AT THE SAME TIME:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxg-rim38uk

No trade offs. He is doing nearly everything in the game at once.
Giving blue mage so many innate shadows(yes blink isn't as good as utsu but good enough) is disgusting, honestly.

[Belmonts]

Going to add to this since people think blu has "Trade offs" and can't "do everything at once".
Here's a video of a person being a healer, tank, DD, aoe sleeper, and self buffer ALL AT THE SAME TIME:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxg-rim38uk

No trade offs. He is doing nearly everything in the game at once.
Giving blue mage so many innate shadows(yes blink aren't as good as utsu but good enough) is disgusting, honestly.

I agree with you on that video.

Not to mention that player is using 3rd party tools that allows him to excel on the change of gear since it can use their famous "pre", "mid" and "post"-cast tools where they inject abnormal packets to the client-server communication... '/Gearset' cannot be as efficient since SE a lot of times said that they "cannot" adjust communication with the server that way.

And with the addition that he can know when to use his JA's and other spells, for he has bars on the screen telling that kind of information...

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[Diavolo]

Going to add to this since people think blu has "Trade offs" and can't "do everything at once".
Here's a video of a person being a healer, tank, DD, aoe sleeper, and self buffer(capping his own magic haste) ALL AT THE SAME TIME:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxg-rim38uk

No trade offs. He is doing nearly everything in the game at once.
Giving blue mage so many innate shadows(yes blink isn't as good as utsu but good enough) is disgusting, honestly.

SCH soloing Tenzen VD. Do we now argue that SCH needs to be nerfed because one of the better players was able to solo that fight, too?

[Belmonts]

SCH soloing Tenzen VD. Do we now argue that SCH needs to be nerfed because one of the better players was able to solo that fight, too?

More like a side note of: "Do everyone doing those solo fights must rely on third party tools to win?" Because it seems like the tendency now with all these videos.

At least the guy on the video was more subtle, but using the menu/typing the commands to choose spells and JA's and then the char "magically" was swapping gear? Nice try from him. :3

Gotta admit that he had to do way more things than the BLU video, tho.

[Domille]

SCH soloing Tenzen VD. Do we now argue that SCH needs to be nerfed because one of the better players was able to solo that fight, too?

Yeah, SCH is broken too. Immanence is completely broken.

[Shiyo]

Glad to know people are bringing up "look these jobs can solo too!" when I didn't mention once, NOT A SINGLE TIME, that it was overpowered that the bluemage solod these fights. What is overpowered is that the bluemage is doing EVERY ROLE IN THE GAME AT ONCE.

NO TRADE OFFS. DOING EVERYTHING AT ONCE. That was my entire point.

BTW, sch can do cheesey kiting and solo things, that's great, it's not doing 18 things at once, it's simply being a mage and kiting. It's the best at it's role unique role. That's balance.

I knew the bluemages would come in "b-b-ut look! This job can solo too! blu isnt op! sch is op! look guys! sch is op!! op op op!". Stop trying to hide how broken your job is by pointing at other jobs, it doesn't work.

Tell me next time another job can solo cap it's own magic haste, have 10+ shadows, have +75% defense + 15% DR from barrier tusk(that btw, BYPASSES the 50% DT cap), have cure4, AOE sleep and can do as much damage as a pure DD all at the same time without even subbing anything.


"But it has to make trade offs!" Really? Then explain that video. He's doing every role AT THE SAME TIME.

"But it's hybrid! jack of all trades!" Then why is it the best at multiple roles at once? A jack of all trades is RDM, it's subpar at everything and not the best at anything. BLU is jack of all trades, MASTER OF SOME. Jack of all trades means you're the master of NONE.

[Jin_Uzuki]

BTW, sch can do cheesey kiting and solo things, that's great, it's not doing 18 things at once, it's simply being a mage and kiting. It's the best at it's role unique role. That's balance.

UUUH? I'm sorry what? "It's simply being a mage?

SCH LITERALLY took over SC stuff. And not only it took over it, it completely changed it so that you can SC safely away from the mob, basically with any setup and you no longer even need melee dd for it. Melee DD, the jobs literally made for the SC mechanic.

Now THAT's game breaking!

[Shiyo]

UUUH? I'm sorry what? "It's simply being a mage?

SCH LITERALLY took over SC stuff. And not only it took over it, it completely changed it so that you can SC safely away from the mob, basically with any setup and you no longer even need melee dd for it. Melee DD, the jobs literally made for the SC mechanic.

Now THAT's game breaking!

I don't think it's game breaking because it's still bad and inefficient to not use melee's in 95% of the games content, but it enables cheesey all mage strategies so I'd be ok with removing it entirely.