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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    Your mistake is drawing a line in the sand and saying it's a case of us vs. you while hiding under the pretense of game balance when that's not what you're calling for here at all. Your choice of words seem to demonstrate an anger towards this one job and, for whatever reason, the people who play it. Nerfing BLU isn't going to get the masses to stop choosing GEO over BRD and RDM or choosing SCHs, BLMs and just about any other job over RNG and MNK.
    Exactly which choice of words seems to demonstrate anger towards this one job in this thread, or people who plays BLU? Could you quote them? Because I'm not seeing many.

    If anything it's the disrespectful and rude people that repeatedly used "You suck, PUG suck, you don't play BLU" in a dps discussion that made me sound defensive, or angry, or any emotion that you described. In that case it's not direct toward BLU player, but rather because the disrespectful people in the discussion.

    If you run on the street and tell them "you suck", you can't expect them to give you reply that's not defensive, no? This is basically what you did atm.

    A lot of people seems to think I'm yelling for BLU nerf because everyone shout for BLU onry, so I just follow the flow and joined bandwagon mindset, and proceed to yell for nerf. That isn't the case at all.

    Back when MNK dominated the shout scene, and people yell to buff other jobs, I actually defended for other job's DPS capability v.s MNK. I'm not that kind of person that you think I am, that'd join the bandwagon and yell nerf FOTM job all day and everyday.

    I also agree that in FFXI history, people have been yelling for nerf, or bandwagon other certain jobs, due to the lack of understanding of game. But that doesn't mean everyone who currently saying MG needs an adjustment are yelling for nerf due to bandwagon mindset.

    So when people questioned pro-nerf player's motivation, or hinted that anyone supporting a nerf has "bandwagon mindset"(whatever that is), I find it very disrespectful. I wouldn't mind if you DISAGREE with the opinion, but hinting pro nerf people has "bandwagon mind set" "you don't play BLU" or "You suck, PUG suck" does nothing in the discussion except fuel the fire with oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    If anything it's the disrespectful and rude people that repeatedly used "You suck, PUG suck, you don't play BLU" in a dps discussion that made me sound defensive, or angry, or any emotion that you described. In that case it's not direct toward BLU player, but rather because the disrespectful people in the discussion.

    If you run on the street and tell them "you suck", you can't expect them to give you reply that's not defensive, no? This is basically what you did atm.
    It's what you inferred from a simple question. As to why you did that, I can only guess, but that's why I'm here asking questions rather than jumping to conclusions.

    I'm not a career/main/whatever-buzzword-you-want-to-use BLU. I don't care for the divisive language often used in these threads. We're all playing the same game, we all have access to the same jobs/weapons/gear. Do with that what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    It's what you inferred from a simple question. As to why you did that, I can only guess, but that's why I'm here asking questions rather than jumping to conclusions.

    I'm not a career/main/whatever-buzzword-you-want-to-use BLU. I don't care for the divisive language often used in these threads. We're all playing the same game, we all have access to the same jobs/weapons/gear. Do with that what you want.
    You did jump into conclusion though, you either try to find flaws in my argument by asking the question, or assumed I know absolutely nothing about the job when I expressed opinion....thus having a reason to write it off.

    Otherwise you tell me, why's "play BLU" the absolute qualification to engage a discussion with job balance? All the description about MG are on BG wiki, and it takes 5 min of reading and learning the MG mechanics to know that there's something quite wrong with the design.

    Why can't people express opinions about design issue, because they truly find a hole in design mechanics? I frequently see people use "You don't play BLU thus your opinion isn't legit" or "You're just pissed about what BLU can do, why don't you playing it youself" in this entire discussion, instead of focusing on the points.

    It's like when someone with Masters in economy giving advice about finance, most people without the background would totally follow the advice, when a 10 yr old kid giving out the same advice, we won't take it seriously because it's all about the person behind the opinion, not the opinion itself.

    But logically, it doesn't make sense.
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    Last edited by Afania; 10-25-2016 at 11:36 AM.