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    Player Diavolo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakuk View Post
    But in the same breath, they are intended as gifts for your loyalty, new players are gifted plenty of stuff themselves that older players don't get unless they buy the game again, in this way at least they are thanking current customers and not just giving loads of free stuff to new players like most companies do.
    Trusts aren't exactly free when they're locked behind quests and that's what I think should be the case for all of them, so that if you happen to be too busy to play one month or just came back to/started the game you won't have to wait 6 more months to get the ones you're missing. There are hundreds of quests/missions already in place with little to no rewards offered for their completion, wouldn't be all that hard to tie the limited time offer trusts to some of them.
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    I have an idea. To reward that oh-so-familiar Final Fantasy XI feeling- why not make trusts teachable by other players?

    It may work like this:

    -A player has a particular trust that another player does not have.
    -Certain requirements could be put in place in order to produce a Cipher, corresponding to the particular trust that the other person desires.

    I see absolutely no reason why this couldn't be implemented. This rewards player <->player interaction, seeks to bind the community further together by way of sharing, and still does not punish newcomers who have to level through the first 99 levels to become relevant.

    I'd just like to say, after seeing others run around with "Shantotto II" cipher, I felt as if those players were looking at me and saying "Wow, he picked the crappy trusts." Clearly, there are trusts out there that are absolutely better than others, and I found myself discouraged to play the game if the development of FFXI is similar to saying to a newcomer like me- "Hey, sorry you missed out. You're just not going to be on an equal player field like others are, and everyone is going to know it when you level."

    If there were some way to implement a change where you could just produce a cipher for another player, or, hell, make them available to the auction house, I'd be happy. I may not be able to immediately pay for them, but I'd be happy.

    What I do NOT like is that I must wait such a long time for a cipher to become available again. Please consider making ciphers of past time available with a series of interesting quests? Maybe? Or the suggestion I made?


    There a couple of additional thoughts that I had:

    -Expound upon the cipher system. As a new player that recently obtained above level 75, I noticed that there is a "Merit Point" system in place. Why not create a system that would increase trust stats the more and more you use those particular trusts? This would reward trusts that are used more often, eventually achieving similar power levels to those more powerful trusts.

    -Increase the capabilities of other trusts, making them more desirable to players. Clearly, for many players, aesthetic will be a factor anyways.

    -A quest line available during the Alter Ego Extravaganza events. Tie this in with whatever else FFXI has going for it.

    -Make exclusive trusts that are not available during the year available after level 99?
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    Last edited by Vjex; 09-11-2017 at 11:03 PM.

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    Other than Aldo and Fablinix (which I don't have, since they seem to have been a one-time release,) I'm pretty sure that every other limited-time trust is made available at least 1-2x per year. You can't really call it a "paywall" if they are made available on a predictable, publicly known schedule. The long waits between releases may be an "inconvenience", but it's not like they cost extra money above the normal monthly subscription.

    Someone please, do correct me if I am mistaken about extravaganza's and seasonal events having set-in-stone lists of available trusts? ^^;; That is my understanding at least.

    If I am right, then at least Kupofried should be available next month. ^^ (As a reward from the Moogles vs Dragons event, and hopefully the 119 Bahamut fight will be back as well from last November.)
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    Player Vae's Avatar
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    The October log-in once again has no trust. When is Shantoto II going to come up again?

    She is LITERALLY the ffxi MASCOT and you only make her available once or twice a year? (shantoto I is terrible btw)
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    Player Diavolo's Avatar
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    It'll be a year since Shantotto II was introduced next month and a year since the last time transfer fees got cut in half, too, so hopefully they'll both make a comeback in November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    ....and a year since the last time transfer fees got cut in half, too, so hopefully they'll both make a comeback in November.
    Yep, and we know where everyone will be heading then..
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    Player Vae's Avatar
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    Ok seriously this is "nice"

    Cipher: Zeid Cipher: Lion Cipher: Naja
    Cipher: Lehko Cipher: Luzaf Cipher: Najelith Cipher: Domina
    Cipher: S. Sibyl Cipher: Karaha Cipher: Areuhat Cipher: Uka
    Cipher: Kuyin Cipher: Abenzio Cipher: Rughadjeen Cipher: Lhe
    Cipher: Mayakov Cipher: Brygid Cipher: Mildaurion Cipher: Rongelouts
    Cipher: Robel-Akbel Cipher: Ullegore Cipher: Teodor Cipher: Darrcuiln

    BUT I WANT THESE:
    Aldo • Babban • Fablinix • Kupofried • Moogle


    At SOME POINT I think it's reasonable to make these ALL available again. Why is there no 2nd chance to get them. Seriously. Gold pells don't cover all 5. Just do the mogs vs gobs event again, that one was actually fun.
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    Player BBWallace's Avatar
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    They are available during the alter ego events you will have to wait till then.
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    Player Vae's Avatar
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    Those 5 have never been available outside the Mogs vs Gobs event. and the "tag??" game that everyone hacked in the starter cities.

    I don't even know when or how kupofried was available, i quit for 16 months when they made him. pells are not a good enough response. Unless they give out 5.

    To my knowledge, those particular 5 have only ever been made available one time, in 3 years. And a second time via Red pell in winter 2014. Even if you double that, it's still unacceptable. http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Mog_Pell_(Red)

    No red pell was given in 2016.

    Moogle, Fablinix, Aldo: http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/A..._Campaign_2014 That's literally(?) the only time?
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    Last edited by Vae; 12-12-2016 at 12:33 PM.

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    Kupofried was available from the Bahamut event Nov 2015.
    They did give out red pells last Jan, that's how I got my Moogle. :x
    Sunshine Seekers was not hackable, but was doable earlier this year as well.

    Fablinix and Aldo though have not been available at all (outside of Red Pell) since at least Aug 2015 (since that was when I returned and restarted.)

    There's no problem with having seasonal event tie-ins.
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