It's your server

[Rooj]

If I move to another server there's no way a random Idris GEO would help a stranger like me for zero benefit.

This is completely false. Helping others is one of the foundations that this game was built upon. And it still exists today. I can without a doubt say I ask if people need help daily and get helped daily as well. I ask my LS if they need help. I ask /yell if anyone needs help.

I don't know what is wrong with your server or the people you play with. I wish they were nicer.

[Afania]

This is completely false. Helping others is one of the foundations that this game was built upon. And it still exists today. I can without a doubt say I ask if people need help daily and get helped daily as well. I ask my LS if they need help. I ask /yell if anyone needs help.

I don't know what is wrong with your server or the people you play with. I wish they were nicer.

I don't think you get what I was saying then. So here's tl;dr version:

I wasn't saying people on my server don't help. I was saying I have established connection on my server that allow me to run events that requires high level of trust. If I move to a different server I won't have same level of connection/trust to do the same thing.

Asking help for harder event that requires very high level of trust isn't the same as /yell in town and ask for help to open 3 mage gate.

For example if today I tell people "I think woc can be 5 manned with a different setup from others: RUN, idris GEO, 2100 BLM, COR, SCH, Apruru, do you guys want to give a try?" My close friends who has years of experience playing with me and knows that I'm pretty good at theorycraft a new pt setup would probably say "Sure, let's see if we can 5 man it".

Now if I head to complete stranger on a different server and say the same thing, most of them will say "Lol, that's not possible".

It's not that they don't want to help, it's because they don't have that kind of trust that can only be build after playing together and successfully done harder event for very long time.

If you're a new or returning player, and you don't have that kind of established connection and trust to begin with, I can see moving to Asura being more beneficial. But not every player are in the same situation as you. Some people in this thread refuse to move because they already have established connection and it's more beneficial for them to stay.

[Rooj]

I think you need to reread what you VERY CLEARLY SAID:

"If I move to another server there's no way a random Idris GEO would help a stranger like me for zero benefit."

My response was to that, not to this other crap you're talking about that people already know about and comprehend. FFS.

[Afania]

I think you need to reread what you VERY CLEARLY SAID:

"If I move to another server there's no way a random Idris GEO would help a stranger like me for zero benefit."

My response was to that, not to this other crap you're talking about that people already know about and comprehend. FFS.

Yes, and that's implying a stranger on a different server won't help, not my close friend wont' help. Thus I don't know why you reply with "I don't know what is wrong with your server or the people you play with. I wish they were nicer.", which implied my close friends aren't helping and not nice. I was basically saying the opposite.

[Rooj]

If your "close friends" are only helping THEIR close friends, then yes, I think there is something wrong with your friends.

I mean good God, I don't think anyone here has friends that don't help them. No one is arguing that, lol. But, incase you didn't know, many of OUR friends have quit the game due to the direction it took in the past (WOTG+Magian+Abyssea+VW), the launch of FFXIV or another MMO, and some just quit MMOs in general. That's great that your friends still play the game. Lucky for you. That's not the case for a lot of us though, to whom the thread was directed.

My apologies for giving perspective from the other side of the spectrum, opposite of yours.

[Afania]

If your "close friends" are only helping THEIR close friends, then yes, I think there is something wrong with your friends.

I mean good God, I don't think anyone here has friends that don't help them. No one is arguing that, lol. But, incase you didn't know, many of OUR friends have quit the game due to the direction it took in the past (WOTG+Magian+Abyssea+VW), the launch of FFXIV or another MMO, and some just quit MMOs in general. That's great that your friends still play the game. Lucky for you. That's not the case for a lot of us though, to whom the thread was directed.

My apologies for giving perspective from the other side of the spectrum, opposite of yours.

I have never say a thing about whether my close friends help other none close friends or not. You're the one making that kind of assumption.

Basically in this entire thread all you do is to bash people who prefer to play with their close friends instead of joining PUG, and make assumptions about people who prefer not to PUG.

You are free to tell people to server transfer, but there's no need to keep making assumptions on other people just because they play with close friends instead of PUG.

[Rooj]

I have never say a damn thing about whether my close friends help other none close friends or not. You're the one making that kind of assumption.

Basically in this entire thread all you do is to bash people who prefer to play with their close friends instead of joining PUG, and make assumptions about people who prefer not to PUG.

You are free to tell people to server transfer, but there's no need to keep making assumptions on other people just because they play with close friends instead of PUG.

Why would I tell people who have no reason to transfer to do so? You are defending something that doesn't need to be defended because no one is attacking it.

You came in here and compared getting help from your friends to switching servers and shouting for help to complete strangers. Why would you do that? You should have instead stated, "When I shout for help on my server, no one helps me, why would I expect it to be any different on any other server?" Because I have no idea why you'd make the prior comparison. And unless you believe the latter statement to be true, then you have no reason to assume that it would be different on any server. So I really have no idea what you're trying to grasp at here.

No one is telling you to transfer if you don't need to, I mean good grief lady. I don't even know what to say to you anymore. The thread was obviously not directed at you, so why are you acting as if it were? You have literally zero reason or need to justify why you stay on your server because no one here is disagreeing with that.

Once again, I was simply disagreeing with your statement that if you switched servers, no one would help you if you shouted for help.

[OmnysValefor]

Asura is not the solution for everyone, even if you think it is. I don't want to be on Asura. Some people don't wanna live in a town of 1500 with a single gas station and simultaneously don't want to live in Chicago.

Yeah, I know that Asura is nothing like most servers were at their peak, but considering the nature of game activity has changed, I don't want to be on the bandwagon server.

[Rooj]

Pretty sure I've said repeatedly that this thread wasn't directed towards everyone, lol. Would appreciate it if yall'd stop crapping it up with pointless and imaginary arguments.

[OmnysValefor]

You have said that, but then you keep coming back and singing the praises of Asura while belittling anyone with counter-input.

Would appreciate it if yall'd stop crapping it up with pointless and imaginary arguments