Mog Wardrobe 3&4 feedback.

[Hachiiiiii]

Keep going S-E. Create the FFXI fantasia, even if it's just options on a menu through the account management page. Hit me with that good microtransation.

[Chipmunkys]

What most people aren't seeing here is the direction SE is taking FFXI now. There as never been a cashshop in FFXI before, and finally there is one. Also SE has already stated lots and lots of more gear is to come to help bridge the gap between current players and i135+ cl mobs. Point being if you want to get into end game content you're gonna need that gear, but where are you going to put it!? Right now majority of us can say screw the fee i'm not paying for it, but just wait another few months then people will have to make that decision. Either retire a job or buy the new space. But I got off topic here, the point I see in this is, this is just the beginning. With this Mogwardrobe 3 & 4 subscription fee tells us the next Quality of Life improvement will cost you money too. Maybe not a monthly fee, but will be one-time fee minimum. Welcome to the new future of pay-to-play FFXI

[Stompa]

What most people aren't seeing here is the direction SE is taking FFXI now. There as never been a cashshop in FFXI before, and finally there is one. Also SE has already stated lots and lots of more gear is to come to help bridge the gap between current players and i135+ cl mobs. Point being if you want to get into end game content you're gonna need that gear, but where are you going to put it!? Right now majority of us can say screw the fee i'm not paying for it, but just wait another few months then people will have to make that decision. Either retire a job or buy the new space. But I got off topic here, the point I see in this is, this is just the beginning. With this Mogwardrobe 3 & 4 subscription fee tells us the next Quality of Life improvement will cost you money too. Maybe not a monthly fee, but will be one-time fee minimum. Welcome to the new future of pay-to-play FFXI

On the new gear for higher level mobs, surely it will be the same as my Delve 1 completed armor sets that I tossed, when I got Delve 2 gear. There is only a certain number of pieces that stand out as incredible situational pieces (which I must keep hold of), most of the upgrades I'm making are tossing old low-accuracy gear and using new high-accuracy gear. Why wouldn't this trend continue?

I have been against the ilvl gearwheel since the start, but looking forwards from today, I don't see why future gear would change the current situation where I toss gear from six months ago to make space for new gear. It isn't the model I would have wanted, but it has been a constant since 2013, if new gear arrives why should I keep my current inferior gear. Very few of the new pieces I've got have game-changing jobspecific bonuses, most of it is just higher DEF and accuracy, they can be replaced in future by more of the same.

On the new mercenary capitalist stuff, that wouldn't explain why SE are letting people download the full game plus expansions for FREE, and play for free in special events. It also wouldn't explain how I got a second floor in my MH, mog-patio, and loads of wardrobe/storage slips/etc. space for free.

There's a lot of new stuff which is bundled free with your basic subscription. Rhapsodies of Vana'diel was a work of genius, it was outstanding, and it cost nothing to install.

They're not turning into predatory capitalists, they're just offering you subscription based extra storage, without the hassle of paying for storage mules and sending things back and forth to mules. I don't need extra space, but if I did, I would cancel a few of my mules, and that would pay for my new wardrobes.

[Shadowlina]

The only kind of transactions i personally am OK with is some of the following:
-Cosmetics (Self explanatory)
-Gender/Race changer (Self Explanatory)
-Name Changing (Some people have a name they dont like and have had it for years)
-Mounts (Iffy, but it'll do)

That being said. This directly effects gameplay. its not super Pay to win. But it does effect gameplay quite a lot. It means 2 more JSE capes for some. The ability to more than over gear 1 job. etc.

But there's been no confirmation on what this will go towards. The game (FFXI), or something else.
Bare in mind, i'm one of the people who played Final Fantasy Grand Masters, and it was very... hmmm, Pay to win to me. FFXI has had some bad press because of that whole fiasco. That being said, there are other things i don't mind it going towards. But if it means boosting the in-game stuff for FFXI, i'm down.

[vienne]

This directly effects gameplay. its not super Pay to win. But it does effect gameplay quite a lot. It means 2 more JSE capes for some. The ability to more than over gear 1 job. etc.

But there's been no confirmation on what this will go towards. The game (FFXI), or something else.
Bare in mind, i'm one of the people who played Final Fantasy Grand Masters, and it was very... hmmm, Pay to win to me. FFXI has had some bad press because of that whole fiasco. That being said, there are other things i don't mind it going towards. But if it means boosting the in-game stuff for FFXI, i'm down.

Thats the big question mark is it? Think for alot of people this matters alot. I've supported this game for almost ten years now and t never felt like a waste of money, but at this point SE wont guarantee the extra £/€/$ will go towards ffxi... Personally i doubt it would. Unless they'd for once give people a decent peek at what the future might hold. If they had concrete plans they might change the mindset of alot of people who are angry right now (including myself).

[Castanica]

I don't care about this as much as I normally would, here is why.

FFXI with subscription only inventory space gives 720 inventory spaces (and the ability to send items to alts and vast amounts of npcs that store items)
One time item purchase grants an additional 80 spaces.

Monthly sub of $2 gives an additional 160 spaces.

If you can't manage with 720 spaces you're an extreme horder. I hated it on xiv because they give you almost no free options to upgrade inventory space, that is not the case here.

[Castanica]

Well the problem here is they said last year there wont be anymore expansions.
I agree with the fact that we already pay full price for a what? 15 year old game. They have stated they have no intent to upgrade the UI, they cant make new content cause of the not available devkits. And now they want to milk it like this, its a slap in the face for the people who have supported this game for so long.

Almost every mmorpg on the market does not get expansions, expansions doesn't mean no more content.

[vienne]

Almost every mmorpg on the market does not get expansions, expansions doesn't mean no more content.

Have you seen any new decent content lately?

[Mooboomagoo]

I was in game complaining about this being a scuzzy thing to do and they pointed out something I hadn't considered. By implementing more storage space they face the very real chance of people cancelling some of their mules because they need less space. The subscription fee for the wardrobes is likely there to offset this problem.

I'm not saying that makes this alright, because I think inventory management is the biggest problem in the game and charging to fix that feels wrong. It is a little more understandable when you think of it in these terms, though. I also think that the price is too high for what you get; the extra wardrobes should cost more than an entire character.

[Eaglestrike]

Prices for everything else I pay for in life has increased in the last 13 years, I'm okay with SE making this optional.

That said, they need to come out with some new endgame content and soon.