Mog Wardrobe 3&4 feedback.

[Raiyara]

I'd chip in and say this is a really poor taste move expecially considering the age of the game and the fact that up to now we got additional space added as they could develop it. To add it now in this way seems really really scummy to say the least.

[Stompa]

This is a contentious subject, so I will try diplomatic language, Hazmat Suit, etc.

I think it is not a bad deal, to offer a slight subscription fee increase in exchange for a huge storage boost.

It would be different if SE had not already given us FREE wardrobes, satchels, storage slips, etc.

If they had given you just original Mog Storage 2004, and your inventory, and then they tried to sell you extra space for a fee - it would be different and I would join you in your outrage. But the fact is that they have already given us loads of free storage space.

This fee is aimed at people who have got exceptional amounts of stuff, not normal or moderate amounts of stuff. I play FFXI every day, have six jobs geared to high standard, fishing gear, clothcraft gear, etc. and I have got around 30% space left over in the current storage systems.

Every year I have a Spring Clean, where I just throw away old stuff that is not essential. I send things to my mules, things I might need to borrow back rarely. I pay an extra subscription fee for my mules, no different to this extra storage fee.

On the "game is really old" and that means less valuable somehow. The best and most expensive wines and art in the world, are all really old. Age doesn't mean something is less valuable. I am happy paying the current subs for FFXI, I consider myself very fortunate that this most brilliant computergame is still available. If I needed extra space, I would be happy paying the slight increase in subs. The money goes to keeping my favourite game online. Win-win.

[mekia]

Like with everything that makes life (or in game life) easier it cost money. Not a problem paying for this.

[Leocon]

I know I've said my piece, but in the spirit of attempting to keep things diplomatic here, I'll offer my post I made on FFXIAH recently.

Eh, I find myself on the fence with the whole thing... While this all is a really crappy move, I'm still enjoying the game all the same, so having 2 extra storage options isn't the make or break deal for me; but I also understand that their dev team is practically non-existent and that these things do take time to implement, time that could be justified being spent somewhere else, either on FFXI or other projects.

I won't pretend to understand how their business practices work out, just that I know all things have their price. I just wish they would have gone with a more one-time cost route with this, rather than a monthly charge. It's not like they have to maintain or update the wardrobes every month, this is, more-or-less, a one-time implementation. 160 slots hardly seems worth $48 a year to me ($96 for my two accounts), especially when I, personally, have gotten by perfectly fine even before Wardrobe 1.

[AoiX]

Throwing in the sack a second grain of sand: With mounts they will also add premium mounts you can only get by paying. If the trend goes that way they will also want money for exclusive paid gear (even if it's just for lockstyle with no real stats there). The formula proved well on FF14. It's only natural they want to expand their profit.

[Sirmarki]

I don't agree with this at all. A lot of people will say "Well, its half the price of a coffee" but they are missing the point..

Storage has always been an issue, and is even more if you Fish and Craft. This is something in the game that requires a fix, not some chargeable "bonus" content. Sorting out items in your inventory is not fun, and is very time consuming, it falls into the category of 'quality of life'.

Are we going the way of Pay-Per-Content AND subscription combined? What next? Mounts? Weapons?

[VoiceMemo]

I think this would start a slippery slope for the state of the game. Yes if you have mules you pay for more space, but mules can be lvled too and can do quests and such. This is just paying for space ONLY. What's next? Paying for spells monthly? Paying for gear/weapons? If it was a one time fee, that I would be ok with, but to have it monthly just for space, I'll probably pass.

[Stompa]

I don't agree with this at all. A lot of people will say "Well, its half the price of a coffee" but they are missing the point..

Storage has always been an issue, and is even more if you Fish and Craft. This is something in the game that requires a fix, not some chargeable "bonus" content. Sorting out items in your inventory is not fun, and is very time consuming, it falls into the category of 'quality of life'.

Are we going the way of Pay-Per-Content AND subscription combined? What next? Mounts? Weapons?

I don't see this as a first step for a future of micro-transactions / cash shop. This is extra storage, the same way we pay for extra mules and send them loads of stuff to hold for us. This optional storage fee allows you have that extra storage without spamming mule delivery boxes all day long. Cancelling two mule IDs would pretty much cover the costs of getting the new super storage.

People saying "the game is so old" and "cash shop mounts are coming" are not seeing the contradiction here. If SE wanted FFXI to have been microtransactions / cash shop, the time would have been ten years ago, when the game was a mainstream hit. That is when they could have sold Mythics and black chocobos and made a fortune from it.

They did not add Cash Shops when the game was at maximum potential commercially, because they understand that many core FFXI players would have quit in droves. People who buy Cash Shop stuff will typically get bored of the game and go somewhere else anyway, they are not a long-term subscription audience. People playing FFXI for over a decade are doing it partly because there are no Cash Shops, and if you want nice stuff you have to earn it. This is actually why FFXI is such a brilliant game, and why it has survived for such a long time.

[Immortta]

SE, please use the money you gain from this to get into XI.... Don't use it on XIV lol

[OmnysValefor]

Like with the abandonment of the XP grind, party-centric grinding and upending of the gearing paradigm, FFXI has been known to change course.

I too think this is a dangerously slippery slope and offers no incentive for them to actually alleviate inventory problems. In fact, like ibm said, the incentive is there to make us need more inventory space.

There is a plethora of ways they could make inventory manageable in this game without adding more boxes
- make meds stack to 99
- let us store gear that has never been storable like magian weapons and the voidwatch armor (I do not want to drop my heka's kalasiris or mekira or toci's)
- let us store abyssea stones (all mine are muled) and abyssea "papers" (also muled). I just never know when I might feel like digging a job out. So yeah, I have this stuff. It's not my inventory problem though, because it's muled.
- JSE capes really should have been all jobs and the base item a key item (something purchased with JP perhaps? essentially another JP gift). If you make this purchaseable at 0 JP into a job then hardcore players are at no significant advantage.