Mog Wardrobe 3&4 feedback.

[Selindrile]

We all know how "very minor" works in MMO terms, especially FFXI, and I did the research, except where I already noted those aren't obtainable ingame, and I have played Perfect World and Runes of Magic, they weren't minor things to the people there.

[Castanica]

RIFT “You can still unlock them through gameplay by using your in-game currency to purchase REX from the auction house!”

[Selindrile]

How do you suppose those items get there in the first place? lol.....

[Castanica]

How do you suppose those items get there in the first place? lol.....

What does that have to do with it? I don't care if someone else buys things to put them on the auction house, as long as I or you can use ingame currency to get them.

The point was you can get them in the game with in-game currency, the auction house is part of the game.

[OmnysValefor]

Similarly, I believe EVE and much later WoW have enabled game-currency (gold, gil, whatever the game calls it) to pay monthly fees in a similar fashion: You buy a "token" of some sort, with real-life money and can sell the code on the auction house.

It's basically sanctioned RMT.

I'm not complaining. I actually have no problem with it.

Honestly, some players will always buy game-currency whether because they don't have the time or just don't care. With the company being the middleman, it at least makes the transaction trustworthy.

btw: I hate when two people with the same avatar argue, so confusing. It looked like one person was tweeting for a minute.

[Elexia]

I stated it before, but it's not the $2/month that I'm upset about. I can easily afford it, its the principle of the matter.

Okay. At this point I want to someone to show me they have an extreme need for Mog Wardrobe 3 & 4. I'm not saying it to be a smartbutt or anything, I really want to see how many players maximize all of their 99 jobs and not just a few, since you know, apparently I only think a "TP and WS set" is needed, despite playing this game since the JP Beta and play numerous jobs from tanking, DD to jobs like Geomancer, Scholar, White Mage and Red Mage. We need a lot of gear for particular jobs, but given the grind to master a job, that's precisely why I stated most people tend to only play 2-4 jobs at best thus not creating an actual need for these optional wardrobes.

If it starts with paying just for more space(paying for mules is space + other benefits, ie bayld farming, crafting, quests etc) what's to stop it from having to pay for spells. I could see se doing this for Massacre elegy for brd.

XI isn't built nor does it support a system like that. What's to stop them? The fact Matsui stated straight out as per client design it's hard coded to a limit to add additional spells to the player or monsters and they have no intention to remove older/unused spells/skills to make room for new. So while "Massacre Elegy" exists, paying for it via microtransaction would make no logical sense.

In XIV it'd make sense because they use a lot of excuses as to why they can't give players x but we can suddenly pay for it. A lot of changes in XI came due to hiring a new programmer.

[Diavolo]

Okay. At this point I want to someone to show me they have an extreme need for Mog Wardrobe 3 & 4.

You're basically sliding down that slippery slope at this point. Would you be okay paying an additional fee for anything that isn't deemed an "extreme need"? That includes a very, very long list of features and items...

[Olor]

You're basically sliding down that slippery slope at this point. Would you be okay paying an additional fee for anything that isn't deemed an "extreme need"? That includes a very, very long list of features and items...

exactly. All of the sudden we need "crystal points" to warp from crystals. You get 1000 a month. Each warp costs 50-100 points. You can subscribe to crystal boost 1, 2, & 3 to increase your crystal points by an additional 5000 each for the month...
warps from survival guides now cost "pages" everyone gets 10 pages per month. Subscribe to Bonus Book 1, 2, and 3 for an additional 20 pages a month each.

Do we have an EXTREME NEED to be able to use warp points and books? No, we used to just walk and warp places. So I guess we don't "need" books and crystal points - but it would be a serious quality of life issue not to have access to them. Same applies to wardrobes 3 and 4.

[Elexia]

You're basically sliding down that slippery slope at this point.

No slippery slope at all - I'm curious to see how many people with all 99 jobs actually plays more than 2-4 to the max, because people should be far more concerned with SE not adding 180 general inventory slots compared 180 gear only slots very few people would even get use out of because they're severely hurting for inventory space, which as I said again, if you truly do play all jobs to 99, SE didn't help you at all even for $4 extra a month because you still won't have space, anywhere to sustain that (if you actually gear swap.)

Would you be okay paying an additional fee for anything that isn't deemed an "extreme need"?

Already do in games I play. They're called optional services for a reason. I'm sure everyone's bought some form of DLC the main game doesn't need before. The only slippery slope is thinking:

All of the sudden we need "crystal points" to warp from crystals

Something like this is anywhere near in the realm of possibility for this game.

The nexon version, however, you should be more worried about.

[Jile]

inb4: JobSpecificWardrobe "Optional Service".