About the Abyssea areas

[Krystal]

I can't find any nice way to put this..so i will try to make it as kindly as possible....

Ever since Abyssea has been introduced players have gotten LAZY..and i mean seriously LAZY....it seems none care about the fact they are so under skilled it's not even funny when they have a level 90. this to be frank..is stupid. players are abusing the abyssea zones and using them for easy leveling from 30 and up. i have partied so often with players in areas such as dyna a few other end game areas and have been shocked and annoyed at the fact these players could not hit the broad side of a barn! this is only one of the side effects of abyssea being introduced with such a low statue of limitation. another result from this abuse all the normal zones have been nearly empty. just a few scarce parties here and there. nothing like it used to be. as a result i have seen new players to the game leave less than a week after first joining asking questions to me such as"where are the parties?!" and "Are zones usually this empty in this game?"(as i am a mentor on the server) my suggestion is this. put a higher level limitation on all abyssea areas. such as level 70 and higher only. This will not only encourage players to level in normal areas so that they skill up properly for end game areas..but will give new players a decent fighting chance at experiencing the fun and excitement of FFXI.

[Nickdogg]

Here here!

[Rionaheart]

I'm with you guys and must be said to quote could not hit the broad side of a barn! Abyssea should be 70 or 75+ coz if you are new to abyssea at 75 with no atamas you still miss quite a lot till around lv 80 and if you have atamas then 70 is good enought i hope se does increase the level cap of the areas for abyssea i have been playing this game for yrs and still lots to do and you are right ppl are now just getting lazy and leaching.

[Corydor]

I agree with this whole heartedly, people will always use quick ways instead of hard work because people are lazy it is a known fact. As for you example of dynamis, my group introduced a whm not long ago everything was fine till someone died. All he did was raise 1 the player we asked why he said he hadn't got raise 2 or raise 3 because he leveled it in abyssea quickly and he couldn't afford the spells >.< now no offense if a level 90 don't have the key spells they they have no right to be 90

Soooooooooooooo please raise the level cap to 70+ so that things can get back to normal, not to mention the economy in most areas would recover since people would be farming more while they party

[kaht]

I dunno about you, but I've seen a lot more people leveling up outside of Abyssea since the xp was doubled and FoV once a day restriction was removed.

I got BRD from 1-42 this weekend, outside Abyssea, just playing semi-casually. Guess what? All my skills are gimped cause I leveled way faster than my skills would go up. How is that any different than Abyssea?

What if I level sync 18-90 in qufim? My skills won't be capped any more than they would be if I key'd the job to 90. How is that any different than Abyssea?

If they put a 75 cap on Abyssea now, how is that any fair to people that never got to take advantage of leveling their characters up there 30-75?

[Krystal]

I'm with you guys and must be said to quote could not hit the broad side of a barn! Abyssea should be 70 or 75+ coz if you are new to abyssea at 75 with no atamas you still miss quite a lot till around lv 80 and if you have atamas then 70 is good enought i hope se does increase the level cap of the areas for abyssea i have been playing this game for yrs and still lots to do and you are right ppl are now just getting lazy and leaching.

This has been something that has been eating at me since the release of abyssea. i am a hardcore player and strong believer in the fact levels should be earned..not given on a silver platter. SE nearly signed FFXI's death warrant when they released abyssea. new players don't know what to do and leave because they have no idea how to level or learn how to do alot of the fun things in FFXI. i down right refuse to level ANY JOB AT ALL in those zones. i frankly down right hate abyssea for the fact it's killing FFXI as it is right now. the only time i have anything to do with it is when i have to merit on one of my level 90 jobs. and the armor..forget it! i want nothing to do with it.

[Krystal]

I dunno about you, but I've seen a lot more people leveling up outside of Abyssea since the xp was doubled and FoV once a day restriction was removed.

I got BRD from 1-42 this weekend, outside Abyssea, just playing semi-casually. Guess what? All my skills are gimped cause I leveled way faster than my skills would go up. How is that any different than Abyssea?

What if I level sync 18-90 in qufim? My skills won't be capped any more than they would be if I key'd the job to 90. How is that any different than Abyssea?

If they put a 75 cap on Abyssea now, how is that any fair to people that never got to take advantage of leveling their characters up there 30-75?

Frankly i find that the exp increase in non-abyssea areas was yet another blunder on SE's part. i do not support it at all but i can't necessarily say the exp boost isn't nice. but i think it was more intended towards soloers than anything. as for the difference. you can take the time to skill yourself up between levels while in a party. when unlike in abyssea you just run around opening chests not doing a damned thing and your levels shoot up ten times faster in there than in normal areas.

Edit: also on a side note...bards have ALWAYS had trouble keeping their skill levels up....so that's sort of a irrelevant example there.

[Eeek]

Abyssea is fine. In regards to this thread, all Abyssea does is expose lazy/poor players. It's not a new phenomenon. Lazy/poor players have always existed, and they always will exist. The good players have their spells and their weapons skilled up. It's not difficult by any means.

I'd like to see the Level 30 restriction on Abyssea stay in place. I don't mind that people use Abyssea to level jobs quickly. The good players will play those jobs well, and the poor players will play their new jobs poorly. I like the fact that Abyssea is widely accessible to most players, and I hope it stays that way.

Furthermore, Abyssea's accessibility is to SE's financial benefit. How many people chose not to buy ToAU until they reached the relevant job level? How many players never reached the mid50s? Did this cost SE sales revenue? If Abyssea's level requirement of 30 encourages newer players (the few that actually exist) to buy the Abyssea expansions and join their high-level friends in the areas, then it benefits SE. When SE releases more download-able expansions in the future, I'd imagine that they also will have low barriers for entry.

[Krystal]

Abyssea is fine. In regards to this thread, all Abyssea does is expose lazy/poor players. It's not a new phenomenon. Lazy/poor players have always existed, and they always will exist. The good players have their spells and their weapons skilled up. It's not difficult by any means.

I'd like to see the Level 30 restriction on Abyssea stay in place. I don't mind that people use Abyssea to level jobs quickly. The good players will play those jobs well, and the poor players will play their new jobs poorly. I like the fact that Abyssea is widely accessible to most players, and I hope it stays that way.

Furthermore, Abyssea's accessibility is to SE's financial benefit. How many people chose not to buy ToAU until they reached the relevant job level? How many players never reached the mid50s? Did this cost SE sales revenue? If Abyssea's level requirement of 30 encourages newer players (the few that actually exist) to buy the Abyssea expansions and join their high-level friends in the areas, then it benefits SE. When SE releases more download-able expansions in the future, I'd imagine that they also will have low barriers for entry.

with players like you...who needs a level cap? oh hell..why not just remove the cap completely! ya..sure..level 1 jobs march on in! who needs to even get to level 30 right?
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in case you could not tell i was being morbidly sarcastic......-_-;
the level cap needs to be raised...simple as that. i don't want to see FFXI die. and at this rate...with things as they are. it will! what do you think this server merge is about? more players to play with? no! it's because the player population has dropped and new players are leaving no sooner they join. why? because no one levels in normal areas! and those who do only to level 30 then they join the abyssea gravy train to level 90 and don't know how to play their jobs and can't hit the broad side of a barn!

[kaht]

Umm.... umad?