What's With the No Future Expansion or Addons?

[Alhanelem]

PS2 is no excuse, they can make an expansion for the other platforms and leave ps2 as it is.

People who only played on the PS2 and may not have a PC (I know a few myself) would be more likely to quit than go out and buy a PC or an xbox if forced to upgrade.

[Runespider]

People who only played on the PS2 and may not have a PC (I know a few myself) would be more likely to quit than go out and buy a PC or an xbox if forced to upgrade

Really? I don't know anyone that plays that has no access to either a PC, xbox or ps3 even if they mainly use ps2. All the other 3 options are cheap now too..can even buy them 2nd hand on ebay, I highly doubt there are many people that are so poor they can't buy one of these cheap options for a better experience. If they are why are they paying for a monthly sub for an MMO.

Anyway I never said not to carry on supporting PS2, I said to give expansions for everyone else. No matter which way they went PS2 players won't get the expansions anyway so it's no loss to them at all either way.

The small number that would genuinly not upgrade, ever, under any circunstances after playing for years and the prospect of a massive boost to the game is so small it's insignificant.

[sruon]

PS2 is no excuse, they can make an expansion for the other platforms and leave ps2 as it is. People WILL upgrade if it's important enough to them (which it is even if they say otherwise). And 160k is way low, I hope you didn't get that number from FFXIAH cause that is no indication since Abyssea, the AH is nowhere near as important and used as it used to be.

Also I don't know if you know this but 200-300k players is a very respectable playerbase for an MMO(with no chinese etc playerbases), especially one that has fully paid for itself. Don't put wow as the bar here, thats a freak in the MMO world. No other MMO has ever or will ever come close to that again.

I never compared it to WoW. No one is going to green-lit an expansion when the PS2 isn't even really supported anymore by Sony. Right, they could drop the PS2... except a large majority of the JP playerbase supposedly plays on PS2, that'd be shooting themselves in the foot on the long run.

Also I doubt a large majority of the popular goes 90 days without buying anything on the Auction House (that's FFXIAH definition of an active character) and we're not even counting the mules included in the numbers, the real number is probably much lower than SE care to admit.

[Alhanelem]

Really? I don't know anyone that plays that has no access to either a PC

There are a lot. I personally know people who literally bought a PS2 and got internet access just for this game.

[Runespider]

Right, they could drop the PS2... except a large majority of the JP playerbase supposedly plays on PS2, that'd be shooting themselves in the foot on the long run.

Considering FFXIV at best will only really appeal to FFXI gamers if this is true they will have no audience to sell the game to on PS3.

Sometimes you have to make the hard decisions, lose a few thousand players or lose them all, no more expansions or a stagnant game when there are very strong competitors coming out is not a good thing.

Also I doubt a large majority of the popular goes 90 days without buying anything on the Auction House (that's FFXIAH definition of an active character) and we're not even counting the mules included in the numbers, the real number is probably much lower than SE care to admit.

I had 5 accounts and many jeuno mules, I only ever bought shihei on 1 mule and never anything else. Even that was so infrequent that even that single "active" char now and then had a red X on it. Lots also have alts for Abyssea soloing now and as I said unless you buy shihei there is very little reason to buy anything on the AH at all so yeah many players will appear inactive but still play since they just don't have a reason to use the AH.

[Karbuncle]

There are a lot. I personally know people who literally bought a PS2 and got internet access just for this game.

But you have to admit, That Situation is incredibly limited, probably less than 1% of the FFXI population Owns nothing but a PS2 to play it on. I wouldn't say "Theres a lot", Cause I have not met a single one outside of the people you've mentioned.

A lot of them probably bought it for the PS2 to begin with for whatever reason, and just don't wanna pay for the expansions on their PC (Even though its like, 5$ now). Who can blame em.

[Zaknafein]

Is this schedule of updates not the exact same or almost at least schedule they gave us at the beginning of Abyssea? People acting like "OMG! Oh noes!!! this is the end of updates 4EVARRRRRR" Seriously chill out. The have a decent amount of things for us to do coming up soon. What with dynamis revamp, and this new battle content we've yet to experience.

I know as a long time player. One who was in a balls to the wall End game linkshell for almost 2 years prior to Abyssea doing events 6 out of 7 days. I have a few things I still need from dynamis, and there's plenty of -1's I still need. Being able to low man some dynamis, tackle this new battle system coming, and finishing up a few things here, and there in Abyssea will satisfy even a hard core type such as myself. Not indefinitely sure, but with summer around the corner it should last till the cap goes up.

Best thing we can do to show SE we want a full sized expansion is too show your support on here. Let em know you are down to drop $40-50 on a full expansion. Idk what the costs involved are exactly, but most expansions in the past were 25ish iirc. If we're willing to go almost or double that, and take into account it can be downloaded now which saves costs. I would think there might be a shot at it if enough people voice their support!

[macbain]

I'd gladly, gladly pay full price for a box-expansion. Its obvious the vast Majority of your playerbase wants a new expansion. This game can live for several more years... please consider the please from us...

completely agree.

[Chronofantasy]

As some mentioned about Abyssea with 3 add-ons. I always considered Abyssea almost like a full expansion, although it was small. You pay $30 if you want the entire thing, and you got your storyline there with all the jazz, and several bosses that must be defeated. I know there is only 10 zones to explore (Empyreal Paradox being one of them) and they all look similar, but so did most zones in WotG anyways.

I believe SE will make a new full or parts of a huge expansion in the future where we can explore new lands and continents. Maybe they are in the works of one right now. Right now I think the lvl cap increase is a lot of work for them to make sure job abilities, skills, and spells are balanced and not over powered. It seems like they also want to tweak any other issues players had in the past since there's a pile of those fixes/changes players been demanding. I can see us having a great new expansion sometime after we reach lvl 99.

[Alhanelem]

I wouldn't say "Theres a lot", Cause I have not met a single one outside of the people you've mentioned.

That's true to an extent, but I don't "know" a lot of people- so if I know multiple people who are in this situation, it stands to reason there are other people that do too. In japan, with the game being released for PS2 first, there are many more PS2 users there.