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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    I know 3 - 5 people could return FFXI but Sadly the Horrible grind is what keep they away.
    horrible grind? the grind in this game for anything other than the superweapons (and arguably even including them other than mythic) isn't even one tenth what it was when they last played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    horrible grind? the grind in this game for anything other than the superweapons (and arguably even including them other than mythic) isn't even one tenth what it was when they last played.
    Its bad compared to something like FFXIV. I was able to level all my jobs to 60 fairly easy in FFXIV and it really didn't fell that grindy since I was doing dungeons with people and fates. Now then if I play FFXI now merits are a huge grind and job points even worse since mobs give so few job points when you kill them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Its bad compared to something like FFXIV. I was able to level all my jobs to 60 fairly easy in FFXIV and it really didn't fell that grindy since I was doing dungeons with people and fates. Now then if I play FFXI now merits are a huge grind and job points even worse since mobs give so few job points when you kill them.
    I can get 45 merits in about 20 mins, I can take a new job from 1 to 99 in 4-5 hours during double xp. That's not even fast, people can do that a lot quicker than me. Just as I lack the intricate knowledge and gear of how to get things done in FFXIV the quickest these days you lack the knowledge and gear of how to get them done here.
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    Player Zumi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    I can get 45 merits in about 20 mins, I can take a new job from 1 to 99 in 4-5 hours during double xp. That's not even fast, people can do that a lot quicker than me. Just as I lack the intricate knowledge and gear of how to get things done in FFXIV the quickest these days you lack the knowledge and gear of how to get them done here.
    How is it possible to get that many merits that fast?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    How is it possible to get that many merits that fast?
    A somewhat decently geared player with strong trusts and a good amount of vorseals can do very well for themselves in Escha zones during double XP/CP campaign. Personally, I was running around in Reisenjima the other day as SCH just casting Helix spells and engaging mobs while my party of trusts took them down in 10-15 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    How is it possible to get that many merits that fast?
    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    A somewhat decently geared player with strong trusts and a good amount of vorseals can do very well for themselves in Escha zones during double XP/CP campaign. Personally, I was running around in Reisenjima the other day as SCH just casting Helix spells and engaging mobs while my party of trusts took them down in 10-15 seconds.
    A decently geared blu, a pet-geared BST (despair) or a nicely geared BLM even can aoe-melt through Zitah like butter for merits.

    BST is a very nice entry job for this, you order your pet to attack something, let it get a few strikes in, heel, snarl, spectral jig and let everything link on your pet then aoe.

    Or, if you have a nice -DT set for BST (Jumalik mail, twilight torque, Defending/Vocane/PDT Rings--since the rest of the slots go to -pet DT), you don't bother with jig and just link as much on your pet as possible.
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    The entirely of FFXIV consist of grinding the same 2 dungeons over and over for the same pieces of equipment that gets updated every 6 months. Oh yeah, and the relic questline, which it's a giant grind and it's made entirely so people have something to do during patches drought.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Its bad compared to something like FFXIV. I was able to level all my jobs to 60 fairly easy in FFXIV and it really didn't fell that grindy since I was doing dungeons with people and fates. Now then if I play FFXI now merits are a huge grind and job points even worse since mobs give so few job points when you kill them.
    The anima weapons are pretty darn grindy (2nd stage being by far the worst, while the 3rd stage is laughably easy by comparison)

    Most of what I do in the game right now is PvP (because im actually pretty decent at it) because I'm trying to secure a spot on the leaderboard for The Feast. Which I have probably done at this point, so this promotion comes at a perfect time for me.

    Having said that, it makes me really miss Ballista. It's a total shame that they never bothered to try to fix some of its isssues.... As far as I can tell it's completely dead now- although maybe people still do it on a different server... though I enjoyed ballista a little differently from the hardcore-est people.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 05-17-2016 at 09:09 AM.