With free access campaign..

[CrAZYVIC]

I know 3 - 5 people could return FFXI but Sadly the Horrible grind is what keep they away.

The Sparks grins necessary to upgrade reforge AF, Relic and empy its too much. Most of them can't solo High Nostalgic Battlefields.

Instead of Cost 7500 and 10 000 the items to upgrade Reforge gear.. The price should be 2000 and 4000. This will make the returning players get Fast Reforged stuff. So they can start play end game with 7 - 10 days.

Alluvion Skirmish its terrible for players quit starting SoA expansion or before, get the survival skills and all the walk to skirmish entrance its Horriblyng boring and tedious. Then the RNG in Skirmish make this vomitive. When you finally can make that, you realice you can't play you need send Pets to kill the stuff rofl

Ambuscade its giving decent sets, at least they have accuracy and attack on them. This is what made me return to the game a good Set and a quick battle, not walk, not grind tedious stuff to access, casual, not RNG, i hope Square enix make more events similar ambuscade.

Job Points should be 10 000 Capacity points= 1 Job point. 30K per Job point its too grindy.

We are in 2016 Grinds and RNG are obsolete systems was made in mids 2005. In the present your public will not tolerate this.

One of my friends told me. I will not farm 300k + Sparks per set in reforge gear just to be able to play with you and company.

Another one told me i Quit the game because SoA was terrible and you want i grind/Farm SoA content everyday? -_-.

The other one said i returned 1 year ago tried sparks gear then joined Unity/Escha, my hit rate was 30% i was a hidrance for everything.

[Alhanelem]

I know 3 - 5 people could return FFXI but Sadly the Horrible grind is what keep they away.

horrible grind? the grind in this game for anything other than the superweapons (and arguably even including them other than mythic) isn't even one tenth what it was when they last played.

[Diavolo]

One of my friends told me. I will not farm 300k + Sparks per set in reforge gear just to be able to play with you and company.

Why not just party up with him and have a little fun farming the chapters and any other gear he'll need to get off to a decent start? A friend of mine recently came back after an 8 year break from the game and I helped him farm up some Escha gear for his BLM to get him started. After a couple of weeks he was fully capable of contributing to Escha and Reisenjima NM battles.

[detlef]

Yeah, whenever someone comes back to the game we always go out of our way to make sure they can catch up in various ways. They're your friends aren't they? Help them out!

[Pixela]

I know 3 - 5 people could return FFXI but Sadly the Horrible grind is what keep they away.

The Sparks grins necessary to upgrade reforge AF, Relic and empy its too much. Most of them can't solo High Nostalgic Battlefields.

Instead of Cost 7500 and 10 000 the items to upgrade Reforge gear.. The price should be 2000 and 4000. This will make the returning players get Fast Reforged stuff. So they can start play end game with 7 - 10 days.

Alluvion Skirmish its terrible for players quit starting SoA expansion or before, get the survival skills and all the walk to skirmish entrance its Horriblyng boring and tedious. Then the RNG in Skirmish make this vomitive. When you finally can make that, you realice you can't play you need send Pets to kill the stuff rofl

Ambuscade its giving decent sets, at least they have accuracy and attack on them. This is what made me return to the game a good Set and a quick battle, not walk, not grind tedious stuff to access, casual, not RNG, i hope Square enix make more events similar ambuscade.

Job Points should be 10 000 Capacity points= 1 Job point. 30K per Job point its too grindy.

We are in 2016 Grinds and RNG are obsolete systems was made in mids 2005. In the present your public will not tolerate this.

One of my friends told me. I will not farm 300k + Sparks per set in reforge gear just to be able to play with you and company.

Another one told me i Quit the game because SoA was terrible and you want i grind/Farm SoA content everyday? -_-.

The other one said i returned 1 year ago tried sparks gear then joined Unity/Escha, my hit rate was 30% i was a hidrance for everything.

The reason this game is still loved is because it's a bit grindy and slow, it's a lot better than it was but to make it like all the other modern mmo titles would totally destroy the thing that makes this game loved and unique.

If your friends don't like ffxi, that's ok. It's called choice, maybe this niche isn't for them.

[Jin_Uzuki]

I know 3 - 5 people could return FFXI but Sadly the Horrible grind is what keep they away.

The Sparks grins necessary to upgrade reforge AF, Relic and empy its too much. Most of them can't solo High Nostalgic Battlefields.

Instead of Cost 7500 and 10 000 the items to upgrade Reforge gear.. The price should be 2000 and 4000. This will make the returning players get Fast Reforged stuff. So they can start play end game with 7 - 10 days.

Alluvion Skirmish its terrible for players quit starting SoA expansion or before, get the survival skills and all the walk to skirmish entrance its Horriblyng boring and tedious. Then the RNG in Skirmish make this vomitive. When you finally can make that, you realice you can't play you need send Pets to kill the stuff rofl

Ambuscade its giving decent sets, at least they have accuracy and attack on them. This is what made me return to the game a good Set and a quick battle, not walk, not grind tedious stuff to access, casual, not RNG, i hope Square enix make more events similar ambuscade.

Job Points should be 10 000 Capacity points= 1 Job point. 30K per Job point its too grindy.

We are in 2016 Grinds and RNG are obsolete systems was made in mids 2005. In the present your public will not tolerate this.

One of my friends told me. I will not farm 300k + Sparks per set in reforge gear just to be able to play with you and company.

Another one told me i Quit the game because SoA was terrible and you want i grind/Farm SoA content everyday? -_-.

The other one said i returned 1 year ago tried sparks gear then joined Unity/Escha, my hit rate was 30% i was a hidrance for everything.

... didn't they just add a RoE for free 119 equipment or something? And as someone said, it's very easy to get escha T1 stuff with help from a friend.

Sounds like you and your friends should try FFXIV or something.

[Pixela]

Sounds like you and your friends should try FFXIV or something.

that burn though.

[Stompa]

So they can start play end game with 7 - 10 days.

The problem with reaching End Game in just seven days after you install a game, is that it would no longer be End Game.

The fact is that it took many players over a year to reach End Game in the original FFXI, and you can now reach End Game in under a month. So this is much faster. If you make it even faster, you risk removing the concept of "challenge" altogether. The problem with games that offer no challenges, is that people get bored and quit. FFXI has stayed online for a long time, because it is filled with challenges that people want to overcome. Other games that give lots of glowy weapons at level one, and no real challenges, those games are no longer attracting players.

You can farm REM chapters on Very Easy mode battles, if you get a few pieces of sparks gear, and some Trusts, to begin with.

It is only "grind" if you choose to view it as grind. The SKC / Merit Points BCNMs are actually exciting and fun, if you are just farming them a dozen times for your REM chapters. They do become very grindy if you are farming 10,000 plutons. But you don't have to do that. Legendary weapons are luxury items.

REM Chapters from BCNM are actually quite fun to farm, and any normal LS would help you with those battles, if you asked them to. I've helped lots of returning players with those BCNM, because the fights are fun, and I like helping people. FFXI is full of players who will help you, if you ask nicely!

[Olor]

Y'all know I am all for making it so that players can catch up, but I think expecting to be at end game level in a week is asking a bit much. Seriously. If you don't like playing the game, you aren't going to start liking it when you've got nothing left to achieve...

I definitely think there are some grinds that are still a bit silly but requiring a little time to get to end game is not one of those things.

[xiozen]

The problem with reaching End Game in just seven days after you install a game, is that it would no longer be End Game.

The fact is that it took many players over a year to reach End Game in the original FFXI, and you can now reach End Game in under a month. So this is much faster. If you make it even faster, you risk removing the concept of "challenge" altogether. The problem with games that offer no challenges, is that people get bored and quit. FFXI has stayed online for a long time, because it is filled with challenges that people want to overcome. Other games that give lots of glowy weapons at level one, and no real challenges, those games are no longer attracting players.

You can farm REM chapters on Very Easy mode battles, if you get a few pieces of sparks gear, and some Trusts, to begin with.

It is only "grind" if you choose to view it as grind. The SKC / Merit Points BCNMs are actually exciting and fun, if you are just farming them a dozen times for your REM chapters. They do become very grindy if you are farming 10,000 plutons. But you don't have to do that. Legendary weapons are luxury items.

REM Chapters from BCNM are actually quite fun to farm, and any normal LS would help you with those battles, if you asked them to. I've helped lots of returning players with those BCNM, because the fights are fun, and I like helping people. FFXI is full of players who will help you, if you ask nicely!

Nicely stated and completely agree.