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    Player Zeargi's Avatar
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    I agree with a lot of the items Shirai mentioned, but I'm gonna repost and add some of my own: (New Wards marked with *)

    Wards:
    Heavenward Howl (Fenrir) - There needs to be a clear break of this. A ward like this isn't something needed when it comes to a fight. Hoping for one, but getting the other is extremely unfortunate. Make this one Endrain
    Ethereal Beckoning (Diabolos) - Grants Enaspir to all Party Members within the area of effect * The other clear divide is that so few creatures in this game have MP, so why waste your time if you know that the thing you're fighting isn't going to give you a return.
    Lunar Roar (Fenrir) - Scale up with SMN Magic Skill and offer 4-5 buffs removed.

    Rages:
    Regal Gash (Cait Sith) For a Level 99 ability it's awful DMG, even more so when you take into the fact that both Carbuncle and Cait Sith can beat the lvl cap of other Avatars. Both of these Avatars are Extremely weak for being Light. And Her attack also closes Darkness, very weird.
    Blindside (Diabolos) - Also a lvl 99 Ability and it's just as bad as Regal Gash's DMG

    Astral Flow - DMG for these need to be looked at

    To tack onto Zantetsuken item mention:

    Make Odin use Zantetsuken I - Single Target Death
    Make Alexander use Mega Holy - Massive AoE Light DMG

    But while under Astral Flow:

    Odin uses Zantetsuken II (Perfect Zantetsuken) - AoE Death
    Alexander will use Perfect Defense

    Both casting of them Still Taking all MP.
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    Last edited by Zeargi; 06-03-2016 at 03:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeargi View Post
    To tack onto Zantetsuken item mention:

    Make Odin use Zantetsuken I - Single Target Death
    Make Alexander use Mega Holy - Massive AoE Light DMG

    But while under Astral Flow:

    Odin uses Zantetsuken II (Perfect Zantetsuken) - AoE Death
    Alexander will use Perfect Defense

    Both casting of them Still Taking all MP.
    Actually, Zantetsuken Kai (Massive dark damage instead of Death) for a non-Astral Flow Pact would also be agreeable.
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    Player Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    Actually, Zantetsuken Kai (Massive dark damage instead of Death) for a non-Astral Flow Pact would also be agreeable.
    Had this idea a while ago to make them have a non-astral flow attack, 1 min recast and requires all the summoner's mp.

    Odin - geirrothr - 10000 needles
    Alexander - gospel of the lost - AoE heal and removes all debuffs (including doom).
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    Player Zekander's Avatar
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    I know it's not really worth talking about, but I've been playing around with Atomos in ambuscade to take off the demon's dread spikes, and I was thinking that it might actually be somewhat useful if it would just speed the hell up. Cut the cast time down as low as it will go, like BLM stone, or even just to spirit cast time, and speed up the charge/discharge time so the whole thing happens in under 5 seconds rather then the 15-20 seconds it takes now.

    Also, I'm rather partial to Carbuncle's Shining Ruby buff. +10% defense and static +4 MDB isn't nothing, and it especially helps trust tanks since they rely a lot more on defense values then player tanks do. It would be nice if it got a slight buff, but my biggest issue is that it is the only ward that cannot overwrite itself. I can't imagine why that is the case, but just fixing that would be a nice change in my opinion.
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Odin - geirrothr - 10000 needles

    Thing is, in this day and age 10.000 damage to a single entity doesn't amount to anything.
    Especially if the damage gets divided over more than one mob, Thunderspark would easily outdo it.
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    Player Secondplanet's Avatar
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    SMN Lv 99
    I'm all for the prospect of using the mini forms of Alex and Odin as regular summons, atleast that way we might be able to have a light based avatar that can hopefully do decent light damage.
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    More adjustments are abound for summoners!

    In the update to take place after today's version update, we are planning to make adjustments to Assault, Retreat, and Release so that the cool down for these abilities are reduced to 5 seconds. We hope that this improves usability a bit more.
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    Last edited by Camate; 06-07-2016 at 10:20 AM. Reason: Added information
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    Player Frodnon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    More adjustments are abound for summoners!

    In the update to take place after today's version update, we are planning to make adjustments to Assault and Release so that the cool down for these abilities are reduced to 5 seconds. We hope that this improves usability a bit more.
    Can you also look into fixing the whole issue with assault flat out just not working?

    Maybe also do something about Avatars going right back to attacking if Retreat pulls hate?

    Retreat also should get a reduced timer.
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    Player Mnejing's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodnon View Post
    Retreat also should get a reduced timer.
    Retreat is also included, they accidently left it out in their translaton.
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    Community Rep Camate's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnejing View Post
    Retreat is also included, they accidently left it out in their translaton.
    Thanks for pointing that out! I added it into my post.
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