Raise your item level to 119 by completing a tutorial quest!

[Catmato]

Obviously those crabs would not aggro you if you were really level 119, a full 20 levels higher than 99, when those mobs were IEP and really were borderline aggro already. They are aggroing your 119 Jobmaster, because you are still level 99, and still just inside the aggro limit.

That's not really accurate. Everything that was aggressive to a level 75 player is also aggressive to a level 99 player.

[Catmato]

I know that it's not really about aggro, I was just saying your example isn't a valid one. Mobs that were aggressive at 75 don't care if you're 76, 99, or 119. Gaining 24 levels didn't make a difference; 20 more levels still wouldn't make a difference.

[Catmato]

And they would not do that if you were level 119. Because EP mob plus 20 levels equals TW mob. This proves that ilvl is gear level, not player level.

Yes they would. A level 60 Robber Crab in Kuftal Tunnel is EP and aggressive at 75. The same Robber Crab is EP and aggressive at 99. There's a 39 level difference between you and the crab and it still attacks you. Levels past 75 have no bearing on whether mobs attack you. Even if average item level raised your effective level, the crab would still attack you.

[Catmato]

Although a lot of EP mobs at 75 are infact TW at 99. But that is not the point lol.

That's exactly the point of what we're discussing. No, there are no mobs that are easy prey at 75 which are too weak at 99. If you can tell me any mobs that you think fit this criteria, I will level a job to 75, switch to merit mode, check them, and post my results even if I'm wrong.

If a person says "my character is level 119 now" and mobs that were EP at 75 are still EP at 119, that is 44 levels of the mob staying EP. You must accept that a mob can not stay EP for 44 levels.

And 75-99 is 24 levels of EP, at a stretch and in some cases only. 75-119 is a staggering 44 levels of a mob checking as EP, and is completely different.

I've been agreeing this whole time that item level doesn't change your actual level.

[OmnysValefor]

Stompa there are only two cases where the difference between level and artificial level matter:

Subjobs: If we were 119, our subs would be level 59.

Bosses that remove and restrict gear are more brutal for the temporary duration. On the flipside, salvage is easier with the stat debuff because our gear puts the stats right back until we can unlock the stats.

Anything else is just semantics.

The problem with the creeping climb of ilvl gear is that the stupid number is telling uninformed players one thing when in fact some players are effectively 125 perhaps with the great deal more stats they may have.

[Vold]

Considering that the JP boards get about 5-6 replies from the dev team compared to our 1 i have to agree with that statement. I think there was even a board on the JP portion where they could vote for the next mount that was released.

would be nice if we got a say in this game since you know.... we pay the same subscription.

I don't know, something tells me we english speaking folk are now the dominate players for this game...they may have to start listening to us. Just check the JP forums. Maybe I'm using fuzzy math here, but their general section is ALOT less active than ours right now, if I'm getting the gist of where their general is located in Japanese. I really do think most of the JP abandoned the game after PS2 support ended but maybe I'm wrong...

[Pixela]

I don't know, something tells me we english speaking folk are now the dominate players for this game...they may have to start listening to us. Just check the JP forums. Maybe I'm using fuzzy math here, but their general section is ALOT less active than ours right now, if I'm getting the gist of where their general is located in Japanese. I really do think most of the JP abandoned the game after PS2 support ended but maybe I'm wrong...

It doesn't work based on numbers, it never did. The JP players of XI and XIV were always a minority, it works the same for Korean games.

It's not about numbers it's just that the devs speak that language and so can interact fully to those players.