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Thread: Job balancing?

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    Player OmnysValefor's Avatar
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    Can't resist, have to add--

    PLDs JP categories and gifts are also lackluster, and it's 1200 (Reprisal deals more damage) might actually be detrimental to the job. It depends on how the formula for increased damage is applied.
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    You make good points, but if you're willing to look beyond the "core endgame-activities", then the jobs are well balanced. Ninja, RDM, SMN can all solo things that not many other jobs can quite so easily and reliably. Although so can BLU and SCH.

    There is presently things in this game that every job can be good at, but that doesn't excuse the fact that less than 10 jobs go to most events (PLD, WHM, GEO, SCH, BLM, BLU, THF if TH is worth the effort). RUN would also be welcome, but there are far more geared PLDs thatn RUNs. Not too many bring out their WARs, DRKs, RDMs, CORs, BRDs, DRG, SAMs or even DNCs. BST has its uses, but the group almost needs to be built around the BST, so you take several. I know that PUP is capable, I've just never played with a capable PUP.

    Someone in one of my LSs the other day said "I love the current endgame model". His mains? PLD, BLU, BLM. He loves it because he can get in almost any group. My mains? PLD, GEO, BLU--but I can see beyond it. I'm tired of telling my friends that we just don't need a warrior for this NM. I can't help it, I want to win and it's far-easier to kill it with mages. Noone wins a trophy for banging their head against a wall trying to make a melee strat happen, whether or not they succeed. You don't unlock a superior piece of gear for placing an unnecessary challenge on your group.
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    May SMN update . . . . . What just happened . . . . . Are they even listening to their player base?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmuller30 View Post
    May SMN update . . . . . What just happened . . . . . Are they even listening to their player base?
    I'm still in disbelief over the whole 700 smn magic thing, its Alexander all over again. Expecting smn to reach an at the time impossible level of smn magic to get the full effect out of our abilites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
    I'm still in disbelief over the whole 700 smn magic thing, its Alexander all over again. Expecting smn to reach an at the time impossible level of smn magic to get the full effect out of our abilites.
    I just don't understand why they'd bother with this, even searching the page for "summoner", this is the only thing they changed. I don't play summoner, I can't say whether it needs buffs or nerfs but this just seems ... weird?

    My summoner friends have been anxious about this for weeks and all it is is a change to Elemental Siphon.

    lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    I just don't understand why they'd bother with this, even searching the page for "summoner", this is the only thing they changed. I don't play summoner, I can't say whether it needs buffs or nerfs but this just seems ... weird?

    My summoner friends have been anxious about this for weeks and all it is is a change to Elemental Siphon.

    lol.
    A couple of my SMN friends including myself are raging really hard about this. . . We feel like we literally just got trolled by SE. Just to break down what the skill does is you summon a elemental pet, then you drain mp from it. The only deal with this is once you are decently geared this skill is obsolete . . . . Every event me and my SMN friends go to we never even once use this skill, refresh does it all for us. Our BP timers are so long our MP is practically full by the time our next one comes around or it is full if you have a refresh set. Not to mention with trusts we constantly have refresh thanks to them even if it is only refresh II it manages to keep our mp well over halfway full or full depending on refresh set. I was soooo excited about this update been waiting weeks, and bam its elemental siphon. . . . . Even when soloing there is way more efficient ways of getting mp back. . . Spirit taker/ Myrkr (missing spelling) / refresh / convert. When your pet is tanking while you are soloing which I always seem to have trust out so I don't need elemental siphon, you don't really want to release your pet that is tanking on the off chance that mob might come and aoe you then kill you or barrage you with ailments that won't allow further summoning or recovery time.
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    Thank you for the detailed explanation.

    The only true mage that it seems like MP is ever an issue for is GEOs in certain content if aspir is not available/reliable--but then you just slow down nuking.

    Them and of course BLMs Death-spamming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    Thank you for the detailed explanation.

    The only true mage that it seems like MP is ever an issue for is GEOs in certain content if aspir is not available/reliable--but then you just slow down nuking.

    Them and of course BLMs Death-spamming.
    Haha sorry for the frustrated rant. I am also GEO and I agree I am constantly converting sometimes lol. I may just not be good at the job to keep my MP in check :P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    There is presently things in this game that every job can be good at.
    Name one thing, ONE THING, that MNK is good at. Something folks actually care about.
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    He's won dance-off trophies from the Republic of Bastok, the Duchy of Jeuno, and the Yagudo Theomilitary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    Name one thing, ONE THING, that MNK is good at. Something folks actually care about.
    Warming the floor for the Escha NM's ? bahahahaha
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