Are we getting a server merge soon?

[Pixela]

This. We are already paying for that...so why should we be forced to move because they refuse to merge servers? It is not about being cheap/poor, I could EASILY transfer right now..but guess what, there is still quite a few of my friends on Lakshmi, despite the super low population. People need to stop being apologists and just realize a server merge should have happened ages ago.

I am paying to play a MMORPG..massive..multiplayer...not 300 people RPG lol come on.

It's not being an apologist, it's that they aren't going to merge them are they?

I was in your position, I moved and I am much happier for doing it. Just giving some advice, maybe you think endlessly complaining and playing a game with a tinge of sadness is better than spending $12...if so then by all means, rock on.

[Pixela]

He's not refusing to pay anything. The game is not free. He paid for the game and the monthly cost.

You pay for access to the servers, nothing else.

Again as I said, do I think a merge is a good idea? Sure but are they going to do them? No obviously not, they are needed here and on ffxiv on some servers but they refuse to do them. This has been the case for what....4-5 years now? and people still ask for it when the threads are ignored completely. What does that tell you?

So with that knowledge at your disposal do you complain and log in every day angry or do you spend $12 to rectify the situation yourself and enjoy the game more from that point on? This is just common sense really, I paid for a server merge and I'm really happy I did because the game was far more fun after doing it. It was well worth it, I would of preferred a merge but I'm happier playing the game now so if it's a choice between paying $12 or banging your head on a wall...Ill pay the $12. You know how often I do a /sea all now? Almost never, guess how often on my old server? Every day.

If you can't afford it then I can at least understand that but to be able to afford it and not do so out of principle, ruining your own playing experience is cutting your nose off to spite your face. Makes no sense to me at all.

I'll use an analogy for you if you are sitting next to someone and they let off a giant smelly fart would you sit there and complain about how smelly they are while not moving, or should you expend some energy to get up to move away? That's what you're doing, sitting in it and complaining.

[Jin_Uzuki]

You pay for access to the servers

I pay for having a functional product and play a massive MMORPG. There is no "MMO" without "Players".

, nothing else.

Oh I see. Then let's close the forum. Since SE can do anything they want to the game and we shouldn't complain, right?

The game doesn't even have to work, as long I can log into the servers!

So with that knowledge at your disposal do you complain and log in every day angry or do you spend $12 to rectify the situation yourself and enjoy the game more from that point on? This is just common sense really, I paid for a server merge and I'm really happy I did because the game was far more fun after doing it. It was well worth it, I would of preferred a merge but I'm happier playing the game now so if it's a choice between paying $12 or banging your head on a wall...Ill pay the $12. You know how often I do a /sea all now? Almost never, guess how often on my old server? Every day.

There is also a choice "don't play, don't pay until they merge the server". I do not support poisonous practices (It's the same reason I don't buy day-one DLC or used the awful cash-shop in XIV), SE is offering an infective service, and a lot of people have the right to complain.

[OmnysValefor]

Funny thing is that frienships are the key reason some people play.
.
I too feel like I could go to Asura or Odin, but I lose my friends. They won't come for the sake of their friends, etc.

This is more like a landlord whose had the heat go out in an entire apartment building and telling the tenants each must call a gas guy themselves.

I don't care how much you love solo/lowman, lowlowpop sucks when you need help in a fight or need a crafter.

Yes, people like having linited competition to ???s, crabs, Ambuscade, HTBF, etc but SE could fix a few easily, like more good apex camps, more pages for escha regions, not having agroing mobs on top of ???s. More copies of HTBF instances.

[Deirdre]

I have to say, I had never seen the "you pay to access the servers, nothing more" argument in FFXI before. I saw it plenty in the XIV forums, usually by people who were desperate to throw cash at SE for things that could be in the game. Funny thing about XI is, it's an older MMO, which has plenty of disadvantages, but one thing that it offers is quality service in exchange for fee. Now I don't know if they'll merge servers, but let's not start giving them an excuse to do nothing based on the fact that "we just offer you servers! Our work here is done", hmmm?

[Jin_Uzuki]

I saw it plenty in the XIV forums, usually by people who were desperate to throw cash at SE for things that could be in the game.?

Ooooh. I KNEW it sounded familiar, you are absolutely right.

Funny how FFXIV fans are stuck paying 5-6€ per old item that used to available for free, meanwhile we get basically ALL the old items from past events from a single NPC at every repeat..

[Alhanelem]

Ooooh. I KNEW it sounded familiar, you are absolutely right.

Funny how FFXIV fans are stuck paying 5-6€ per old item that used to available for free, meanwhile we get basically ALL the old items from past events from a single NPC at every repeat..

If they had a system in place that would allow them to charge you money for items, they'd probably do it. They probably just haven't developed one because 1) the playerbase isn't large enough for it to be worthwhile and 2) the clientele for this game would probably be more resistant to the idea ( I don't like it either but since I always do the events, it's not an issue anyway)

Yeah, no. FFXI as it is right now, it's the perfect balance of old and new.

I rather agree with this sentiment. For most things (not all though) I feel like they've adapted to changing demands in an appropriate way.

[Jin_Uzuki]

If they had a system in place that would allow them to charge you money for items, they'd probably do it.

It's kinda already exist. I mean, there is already a system that allows you to insert "codes" for in-game reward (See Chocobo Shirt and Hat from Seeker ultimate), and of course server transfer which pays IRL money for a change that ultimately affects the in-game date.

So it's obvious a choice. Why? I don't know. Perhaps SE highers-up don't think it's worth or it will profitable enough with the small populace left.

[Pixela]

If they had a system in place that would allow them to charge you money for items, they'd probably do it. They probably just haven't developed one because 1) the playerbase isn't large enough for it to be worthwhile and 2) the clientele for this game would probably be more resistant to the idea ( I don't like it either but since I always do the events, it's not an issue anyway)

I rather agree with this sentiment. For most things (not all though) I feel like they've adapted to changing demands in an appropriate way.

Honestly it has nothing to do with size of the playerbase because there are far smaller games with cash shops, it's more that the players of ffxi value its lore very highly and would rage at the kind of things you get in ffxiv. Xiv players are very accepting of its odd cash shop outfits and mounts, lore and immersion destroying tie ins from other games are also welcomed there. They try very hard to keep everything here in the reality of the world they have made, the devs have a lot of respect for that.

Just different audiences.

[Alhanelem]

Honestly it has nothing to do with size of the playerbase because there are far smaller games with cash shops, it's more that the players of ffxi value its lore very highly and would rage at the kind of things you get in ffxiv. Xiv players are very accepting of its odd cash shop outfits and mounts, lore and immersion destroying tie ins from other games are also welcomed there. They try very hard to keep everything here in the reality of the world they have made, the devs have a lot of respect for that.

Just different audiences.

So you're saying it's not lore destroying to parade around in behemoth suits and such in FFXI? What about the dragon quest and FFXIV tie ins? You act like none of that stuff you're criticizing has happened here.

Also, I don't consider things like outfits of major NPCs "lore destroying." It's kind of ridiculous to imply that those characters are the only people in the world that might have clothes like that.

Trust in FFXI? While they started with a lore explanation for the first ones we obtained, virtually every trust released after the first ones, whether it's a monster, people from back in time, brand new characters created just for an event, etc. was given as an item, with no story or background as to why that trust is a thing. It's supposedly magic created by bonds of friendship, but many of the newer NPCs are only ever tenuously associated with the player character at all.

When Iroha and Lightning ans Shantotto showed up in FFXI, there was a story to go with it to explain things away. You can argue FFXIV is doing more of it if you want, just don't try to suggest that FFXI has never had any tie ins or things that come from previous games.

(as far as that big long post that's getting quoted... just let the games be different. While FFXI does need to adapt to modern trends in some ways, it doesn't need to be wholesale transformed into something else.)