Dark Knight and the Dev Team

[Anathiel]

...wow you guys seriously made me not want to come back to the game now. lmfao wow....that's just heart breaking hahaha. well hopefully we can get some information shined on this situation. please mod's tell us if anything is being planned for drk?

[Anathiel]

okay somebody just gave me the low down on what's going on with DRK. please for the love of god give the job a buff lol. we're not asking for much, just asking for a level playing ground.

[Frost]

You know what I find funny? The fact that the mods are blatantly ignoring the DRK forums. By ignoring I mean just not posting anything or shedding any light on these matters, I'm sure they're all reading these (they probably have to). But at least they step in on other threads to let people down, as SE has been doing for several years, even before FFXI. I guess we just can't get our hopes up about anything creative and interesting. Of course knowing DRK's misled reputation, they'd probably be afraid of everyone killing themselves from the disappointment.

Why should the dark forum get special treatment? Have you seen any developer interaction in the other job forums?

Only Drg and Cor have; Cor because one of its abilities is being worked on atm, and Drg because a thread was moved from general, that had an easy to answer question.

The devs are busy with more pressing issues at the moment I'm sure.



Cater to Darks who only recently became deficient? Or work on releasing new content and fixing jobs that need balancing more urgently?

And Darks only became deficient by proxy, because other jobs that were neglected for years finally got a boost.

Get some perspective...

[Anathiel]

Recently became deficient eh? I seem to remember back in 2005 getting kicked out of pt's because they found a rng. Or looking for a party for days before finally getting proficient at making my own parties before I got a static. Oh, and not being able to get into zilart or promathia missions. Right I guess this has only happened recently.

[Harukusan]

Why should the dark forum get special treatment? Have you seen any developer interaction in the other job forums?

Because DRK is obviously played by special people, such as yourself.

[Frost]

Recently became deficient eh? I seem to remember back in 2005 getting kicked out of pt's because they found a rng. Or looking for a party for days before finally getting proficient at making my own parties before I got a static. Oh, and not being able to get into zilart or promathia missions. Right I guess this has only happened recently.

Yes recently.

Really? Going to bring up Rangers? Really? You do recall they got nerfed to near extinction right? That's the worst example you could possibly come up with. You, as well as everyone got replaced by rangers because they were so ridiculously over powered at the time, and got "adjusted". Then everyone played Rdm, Blm, Nin, and Brd for about 3 years... Then they added the Two handed buff and pretty much every one-handed job fell to the wayside as Drks, Drgs, Sams and Wars got invites, casting off the one handers into exile for a few years(with a few exceptions).

Now, the pendulum has swung in the other direction, and the one hander jobs are enjoying a bit more of the limelight, but sharing said limelight instead of dominating it with those two-handers of yesteryear.

You guys make it seem like Darks are completely useless; like Darks are just under a melee Smn/Blm on the pecking order or something. I have no problem getting invites on my Drk or holding my own in a party nowadays. Most of the reason why I hold my own is that I adapt and enjoy the whole berth of the Dark job. And I'm not the only one having no issues. If you think it's so hard to play right now and that you're useless, while other Darks still holding top slots in a parse, getting invites on "your job", and don't see it as underpowered... You might want to think about maybe why YOU are having issues.

[Cruentus]

Clearly someone didn't even read my post, which is fine. I don't take offense to illiteracy.

What I implied was that I don't consider Abyssea to be an actual part of the game. More like a bonus level where you can go batshit crazy on everything and get the best gear to-date in about a week's worth of effort, or less. Abyssea is not going to last forever, so when it dies down, I believe everything will be back to the way things were before. Basically pre-Abyssea, if you were actually good at a job, people would invite you to use it regularly. If we're lucky, we can go back to that. Now, if you aren't a specific job that meets the standard of Abyssea, people treat you like shit and make you the bench warmer. That's basically what everyone is saying about DRK right now. DRK is the one sitting on the side. For now. Everyone should just calm down and think about what the future actually holds, not try to adjust the current situation.

Think about it, do you believe this is the first time DRK has been on the bottom of the barrel? 2004 it was lolDRG and lolDRK and RNG was the leet DD. RNG+NIN+THF+BLM+RDM+WHM = win PT all! omg guys Sidewinder + SATA Dancing Edge + Blizzaga 2 we can get chain 5!! Of course back then some people thought BRD was pretty useless too, and look what's happened to that! BRD is losing the interest of most people again as well.

Did you all forget that just before Abyssea, DRK was one of the most popular jobs to be used as a DD and often times a tank for many situations, especially low-manning HNMs and other similar events.

This is just another phase in the world of FFXI. It'll all be over soon.

Except that add-ons never get fully removed from the game. Abyssea will always be there, just like Dynamis, Einherjar, and Eco-Warrior. And I did use the phrase "right now." Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

First, don't imply things. Say what you mean instead of being sarcastic, and the only people who will misunderstand you will be the idiots who can't read. I.e., not me. Second, no, I don't believe this is the first time. I believe it's the first time in my time in Vana'diel, which is true, since I've had this game for a year. I'm working with what I know. Screw 2004. Finally, no matter what, balance is required in a game like this. If a job (like how DRK is right now) is useless compared to everything else, it needs to be fixed. There is no possible argument against this fact, and I will thank you to either help the situation by suggesting things that will actually help, rather than keep your attitude and help drag this thread down.

Now, to everyone... Try doing something constructive already. Instead of arguing with each other, try suggestions to fix the job. I'm getting really, really sick of this stupid one-upsmanship attitude everyone has.

[Flunklesnarkin]

while we are talking about drk.. i always thought drk should have some sort of spell similar to holy .. but drk based...

would be really fast to cast and could do a quick augment to your damage like holy.. maybe instead of calling it un-holy they could call it ummm.. Desecrate?

Then we could pretend like we are evil pld's >_>

[Zeroth]

I suggest they do something about scythe which SE said they would do 4 years ago...

[Rayik]

Yes recently.

Really? Going to bring up Rangers? Really? You do recall they got nerfed to near extinction right? That's the worst example you could possibly come up with. You, as well as everyone got replaced by rangers because they were so ridiculously over powered at the time, and got "adjusted". Then everyone played Rdm, Blm, Nin, and Brd for about 3 years... Then they added the Two handed buff and pretty much every one-handed job fell to the wayside as Drks, Drgs, Sams and Wars got invites, casting off the one handers into exile for a few years(with a few exceptions).

Now, the pendulum has swung in the other direction, and the one hander jobs are enjoying a bit more of the limelight, but sharing said limelight instead of dominating it with those two-handers of yesteryear.

You guys make it seem like Darks are completely useless; like Darks are just under a melee Smn/Blm on the pecking order or something. I have no problem getting invites on my Drk or holding my own in a party nowadays. Most of the reason why I hold my own is that I adapt and enjoy the whole berth of the Dark job. And I'm not the only one having no issues. If you think it's so hard to play right now and that you're useless, while other Darks still holding top slots in a parse, getting invites on "your job", and don't see it as underpowered... You might want to think about maybe why YOU are having issues.

Try getting a party invite on something other than trash XP mobs. Only reason DRK gets invites to Abyssea parties is to fill up space in an alliance. Nobody goes out of there way to get a DRK, it's never "Ooh! a DRK, grab him!" Have fun fighting NM's or actually accomplishing something besides XP.

Addendum: I've been a DRK main for 4 years, leveled RDM a year and a half ago just so I had something useful at events(and I enjoyed the job). Even when I low-man with RL friends and family, they NEVER ask me to come DRK. They'd rather have me on my gimpy full-perle, Abyssea-burned WAR with red procs(skills barely high enough for that) than my full geared out and merited DRK.