Dark Knight and the Dev Team

[Flunklesnarkin]

Thats hardly a solution blowfin... I can't think of any other job whose main weapon is worse than a secondary weapon


edit... but i suppose GA could work.. if they gave drk an A- rating in great axe

then it would be problem solve >_>

[blowfin]

Well if youre going in with a main weapon mindset like that of course its not a solution. Why do you have to be swinging a scythe the whole time to be happy on DRK, its 7 skill levels difference at lvl 90 between GS and Scythe and hardly worth even considering them as main or otherwise.

Also, the GS is the easiest empy to get (with GK and Gun), improves the performance of DRK substantially and you get to crit your WS every 30 seconds if you sub THF.

[Flunklesnarkin]

A jobs best weapon shouldn't be B- rated ... heck even whm ( considered a non DD job) gets a B+ in its main weapon club

Give Drk an A- in GA and it would be fine to say problem solved imo...


edit.. oh and its not 7 skill level differences between GA and scythe at 90

GA caps at 325 .. scythe caps at 361

[Therin]

you get to crit your WS every 30 seconds if you sub THF.

This is irrelevant if your DoT is halved by changing your subjob.

[Olor]

GA caps at 325 .. scythe caps at 361

he said Great Sword... not Great Axe... I believe:

Well if youre going in with a main weapon mindset like that of course its not a solution. Why do you have to be swinging a scythe the whole time to be happy on DRK, its 7 skill levels difference at lvl 90 between GS and Scythe and hardly worth even considering them as main or otherwise.

Also, the GS is the easiest empy to get (with GK and Gun), improves the performance of DRK substantially and you get to crit your WS every 30 seconds if you sub THF.

[blowfin]

A jobs best weapon shouldn't be B- rated ... heck even whm ( considered a non DD job) gets a B+ in its main weapon club

Give Drk an A- in GA and it would be fine to say problem solved imo...


edit.. oh and its not 7 skill level differences between GA and scythe at 90

GA caps at 325 .. scythe caps at 361

Sorry, there was a typo in my post which read GA rather than GS. Even still, the original post did say that there was a 7 skill level difference between GS and Scythe, not GA and Scythe.

Just to note, isnt Rampage spam the way to go for good numbers for DRK in Abyss? At least for EXP. At least until you can get hold of the Empy GS. Why is swinging a 2H weapon that important that people overlook other options.

[Kagato]

Idk, I like Dark the way it is. In Abyssea, if you want a Crit Hit WS, just use swords, axes or even g.axes(for Cleaving). You don't ALWAYS have to use a scythe or g.sword. Drk's get access to pretty much everything a War gets, and then some, so comapring Darks to War is kinda moot.

Dark is a hybrid class, it has a lot of uses other than "MONGO SMAAAAASH!". 99% of the Darks out there REALLY want to be playing Warrior, because there's absolutely no difference between how 99% of Darks play Dark and How a War plays War, except for aesthetics.

That's not to say there's NO differences between them. Just that people rarely use the stuff that separates Drk form War. I rarely if ever see Drks cast anything besides maybe Ab-TP. Most of them only see the job abilities and seem to ignore they got an MP pool. Do you know what Ab-Agi does for a group? It drops the mob's agility, aiding in the overall crit-rate of the entire group. Ab-Acc, is like another Blind that stacks in addition to Blind, Ab-Dex drops that accuracy even further (not so noticeably though). And dare I remind you, did you know Dark can actually sleep stuff? Never seen that cross a Darks' mind when an add is sitting there whacking on someone (Or aggro something and choose to die instead of sleep it).

SE keeps trying to corral Darks into casting more, and I wish they would, but I will admit, Dark does have a few "Head Scratchers"... Elemental Magic is kinda too low to be Useful. Why would I cast Aero III when I can hit a mob 3x in the same amount of time, do 5x as much and be 3/5's of the way to a weaponskill? If the elemental spells were incorporated/combined with the Ab-Spells in some way, like say instead of having Ab-Dex and Thunder, instead give Ab-Dex a thunder property that absorbs dexterity and deals thunder damage. It would be a lot less insulting than an elemental spell thats out damaged by something a healer could toss out while goofing off.

And if SE really wants Darks to be more valuable to parties, AND cast more, give us an ability that allows Darks to share their absorb spells with a party member(s). How nice would it be to have a Dark cast Aspir, or Drain and have it shared with a tank? Like a "Trick Attack" for magic. Just put a party member between you and a monster, cast Ab-Acc, you get accuracy and so does your buddy. Or just an Aura ability: you Absorb Strength, and anyone within x yalms gets the Str buff too.

I don't like to be mean, but I have to. This entire post is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Let's break it down:

1) You got DRK and WAR swapped. It is WAR who has more weapon versatility than DRK, and uses those weapons better too. That is why WAR is always wanted over a DRK for red procs.

2) lolMongo Smash. Did you know that the only way to do such a thing is to use Souleater and Last Resort together? Once we do that, we probably run even with WARs and MNKs as far as DoT, only we're actually dying while doing it and they're not.

3) DRKs don't want to be WARs. Actually, no SMART DRK wants to be another WAR. What good DRKs want is something that makes them stand out and have something that is actually needed and better than another job. Did you know BLMs have the same Dark Magic skill as us? Thats right. We can't even beat BLMs in a magic category that we're supposed to specialize in.

3) Casting during a battle greatly reduces our DPS and overall DoT. If we're not supposed to physically engage an enemy, such as against NMs in Abyssea or other such events, guess what we do? Stun. Sadly, so can other jobs, making us not as valuable. Sure, we can also cast absorb spells to weaken the NM, but Absorb decay is so high on NMs that it wears off quickly even if we have capped Dark Magic, fully merited, and have a Dark Magic set. So sure, we can cast Absorb-ACC. It'll give any ordinary big NM...oh...10 seconds of "blind." And did you know our ability to sleep things is usually overshadowed by other mages in the group? both BLMs and RDMs do it better than us. We only have to use it if we're the only ones that can, and seeing as how our actual enfeebles list is small, chances are a DRK who didn't lvl another mage job with more enfeeble spells won't have a high enough skill to land Sleep in the first place.

4) Our Elemental Magic skill isn't too low. We have the 2nd highest in the game. It's the spells themselves that are too low. We only have as high as tier III.

[Frost]

"My truck is suppose to be a race car! How dare you tell me it can haul things! If I help people and put stuff in the truck bed I can't go fast!"

You're missing the point of my post. First of I said most people that play the job act as such, not that I believe it should be done as such. Second, I am not confusing the versatility between the jobs as stated. Reread what I said. Third, Read, don't skim in the future. And finally reread the metaphor in the opening of this post and hopefully you can see where I am coming from.

[RaenRyong]

sub THF.

no

/thf can be up to 40%+ weaker than /sam.

[Kagato]

"My truck is suppose to be a race car! How dare you tell me it can haul things! If I help people and put stuff in the truck bed I can't go fast!"

You're missing the point of my post. First of I said most people that play the job act as such, not that I believe it should be done as such. Second, I am not confusing the versatility between the jobs as stated. Reread what I said. Third, Read, don't skim in the future. And finally reread the metaphor in the opening of this post and hopefully you can see where I am coming from.

Rereading your post now.

...

Yup. My post still stands.