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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    Cloudsplitter is a lightening elemental attack WS. Its pretty good for an ele WS, don't know why people are expecting it to compare to other crit hit WS. The reason your seeing all these crazy wildfire numbers is that the COR's are stacking it with +Fire / MAB atma's while your using RR / Apoc types. You want to do crazy damage on cloud splitter your going to need,

    Atma of the Lion
    Thunder Damage +40%
    Triple Attack +10%
    Physical Damage Taken -10%

    Atma of the Blinding Horn
    Thunder Damage +30%
    Magic Damage Taken -10%
    Conserve MP: Minor (useless on the jobs involved)

    Atma of the Ultimate
    Magic Attack Bonus +50
    Magic Accuracy +50
    MP -25% (useless on the jobs involved)

    As for the stat to use more testing needs to be done on how this WS's fINT works. INT isn't always used for fINT, Wildfire use's AGI (P_AGI - E_INT) instead, along with a few other WS's. This could use STR or MND for fINT along with being one of the WSC's. MAB is also something to look at, pack it on whenever possible but please remember that 1 MAB does NOT equal 1% extra damage, this is a myth. The amount of additional damage is based on how much MAB you already have.

    You have 24 MAB (from /RDM or /BLM) and you put on the 5% earring.
    1.29/1.24 = 1.0403, or +4% damage not 5.

    If your already at 74 (from atma + MAB II) then its,
    1.79/1.74 = 1.0287 or +2.87% additional damage.

    And while brewing you should be dealing retarded damage, technically thunder has more +DMG then fire. Fire can get +60 from two atma's, thunder gets +70 and the accuracy to go with it. Only their +2 feet and tendency to sub RDM lets them deal that kind of damage. As a WAR (or BST) your also dealing melee damage, so while your ZOMFG numbers may be less your still crushing them in total damage.
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    Here is what annoys me about Cloudsplitter.

    Most of the weapon skills for Empyrean DD weapons seem to be fairly good. It seems slightly ridiculous that Axe has an elemental weapon skill when Hand-to-Hand, Dagger, Sword, Great Sword, Great Axe, Scythe, Polearm, Katana, Great Katana, and Archery all have have physical weapon skills. I honestly do not understand the logic of giving an elemental weapon skill to BSTs and dual-wielding WARs. At least CORs will have a MAB set for Quick Draw, how many full-time DDs will have a MAB set?

    Seriously, I want to know what Square was thinking by making a heavy DD weapon have an elemental weapon skill. And I know better to ever expect an answer.
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    Player Areola's Avatar
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    I did some gorilla style testing on the gneiss leeches in Konschtat-A.

    At 100% Tp with out MAB and and only the +40 i get form cruor buffs cloudsplitter does about 700 damage and at 300% it does about 1000 damage. Notice i said "about" and i'm going to say it a lot. I'm rounding UP to make the math easier. ~I'm lazy

    So lets say your not normal and save up 300%tp every time you ws if you use ultimate, lion, and blinding horn that's a total of 120% that brings you to about 2200 damage. now lets add a novio +7 hecate's +6 and an ugly pendant +8 for 21 more MAB brings the ws to 2410. Now lets add /blm or /rdm for 24 MAB for 2650 damage. remember these numbers are at 300% TP. 100% TP would be about 1225 damage. based on what saevel said about MAB the damage would be less, but i'm not even going to pretend like i know how to calculate MAB perfectly :P

    With this setup you sacrifice all your dd atmas on war and only gain 10% triple attack. The crit rate from using RR or GH alone would trump this in WS and melee damage. For bst you sacrifice dd atmas or pet tanking/dd atmas, if your pet is worthless you might as well be on war.

    Basically out of all my QQ ing what I'm getting at is this ws isn't well designed for the jobs its given to as an empyrean WS and i don't see the purpose for its existence(unless war QQ'ed a lot about not having primal rend), and please don't say its great for brewing that's obvious, but I shouldn't have to spend 200K cruor to not regret making this weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areola View Post
    i don't see the purpose for its existence(unless war QQ'ed a lot about not having primal rend)
    Unless procing blue, I don't think that most one-handed axe Warriors even acknowledge the existence of weapon skills that don't start with "R" and end with "ampage".
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