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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    What's your full build for Cloudsplitter? I don't think I've ever seen you post much of it except for MAB earrings.

    Also, were you using MAB earrings for those first tests or only on the second ones?


    I've been doing some stuff outside Abyss recently too and I'm starting to notice stuff like this:
    Blowin readies Rampage.
    The Bark Tarantula takes 814 points of damage.

    Blowfin readies Primal Rend.
    The Bark Tarantula takes 1054 points of damage.

    The above is subbing RDM but the point remains I think.

    Then there's the potential VIT adjustment for critical hits... things start to look a bit different if that effects the damage we deal too.
    ye be wantin' t' know me clousplitter build do ye? ye salty seadog ye

    I didn't stack all the str and mnd possible but i feel i got a very good chunk from the gear i have available

    head: twilight helm> 10str 10 mnd
    neck: ugly pendant> 8mab
    earrings: moldy and hecate's > 5 and 6 mab
    rings: rajas and spiral ring> 10 str
    body: kirin's osode(haven't goten my twilight mail yet T_T)> 10 str 10 mnd
    feet: suzaku's sune-ate> 15 mnd
    hands: ferine manoplas +2> 11str
    waist: crudelis belt> 5 str 5 mnd
    I don't have any mods on my back and legs cause I'm lazy. i never completed this build cause when i used this ws i didn't think it was worth finishing

    The first test was w/o the earrings and pendant. The no.'s with earring and pendant and n ascetics are 100%TP 1100+ 200%TP just under1500 300%tp 1762 consistently

    /rdm(mab) and fencer(tp bonus) will directly affect your primal rend damage, where rampage doesn't have a most amazing crit rait w/o RR, also from what I have seen at 100%tp primal rend hits harder than cloudsplitter
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    ye be wantin' t' know me clousplitter build do ye? ye salty seadog ye

    I didn't stack all the str and mnd possible but i feel i got a very good chunk from the gear i have available

    head: twilight helm> 10str 10 mnd
    neck: ugly pendant> 8mab
    earrings: moldy and hecate's > 5 and 6 mab
    rings: rajas and spiral ring> 10 str
    body: kirin's osode(haven't goten my twilight mail yet T_T)> 10 str 10 mnd
    feet: suzaku's sune-ate> 15 mnd
    hands: ferine manoplas +2> 11str
    waist: crudelis belt> 5 str 5 mnd
    I don't have any mods on my back and legs cause I'm lazy. i never completed this build cause when i used this ws i didn't think it was worth finishing

    The first test was w/o the earrings and pendant. The no.'s with earring and pendant and n ascetics are 100%TP 1100+ 200%TP just under1500 300%tp 1762 consistently

    /rdm(mab) and fencer(tp bonus) will directly affect your primal rend damage, where rampage doesn't have a most amazing crit rait w/o RR, also from what I have seen at 100%tp primal rend hits harder than cloudsplitter
    Thanks for that!

    I need to do a lot of work on my build too, I've been holding off on twilight helm and mail until I get this axe completed really. Seeing as you didn't use any MAB gear with that first test I'm actually slightly more encouraged by the results.

    I can see Atma of the Lion and Atma of VV becoming VERY frequently used for my BST. Sub in Apoc for DD, Ducal Guard for -100% PDT, hell even Allure if you want to sub RDM isn't that much of a crazy idea. 30 MND is a nice solid boost to your rewards and Cloudsplitter. The problem is finding situations where it's going to be the right sub choice. Fafnir is my only really good example at the moment where RDM is the ideal sub, i'm sure there's more stuff out there though.

    Put it this way though, Cloudsplitter is mostly for BST I think. Most WAR aren't going to be caught dead with a one handed axe setup for most things. If you're a WAR and don't have BST leveled, then this weapon isn't the smartest idea as it currently stands. Also, I'm starting to strongly suspect they want us to use this with an Axe/Shield Setup, which makes RDM start to look like a very appealing sub.
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    I intend to find a crowded spot like Guku some afternoon, equip my Farsha, Viking Shield, and Varangian Helm, eat a Viking Herring, and start singing The Immigrant Song in /shout while I repeatedly Cloudsplitter things upside the head.
    You also need a pair of these.
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    Something they should address with this weaponskill is the lack of a dStat portion in the damage formula.

    From Studio Gobli:
    Primal Rend has a (player CHR - mob INT) x1.5 portion.
    Wildfire has a (player AGI - mob INT) x2 portion.
    Sanguine Blade has a (player INT - mob INT) x2 portion.

    Cloudsplitter would be a little improved if they at least add either a STR or MND - enemy INT portion to the formula. Would be vastly improved if it were a STR+MND - enemy INT. ^^
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    So um, bumping this thread.

    People seem to be complaining that BST takes too long to kill things, and on occasions have even burnt their roast while waiting (may or may not be totally true), I think boosting Cloudsplitter would go a long way to improving this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    So um, bumping this thread.

    People seem to be complaining that BST takes too long to kill things, and on occasions have even burnt their roast while waiting (may or may not be totally true), I think boosting Cloudsplitter would go a long way to improving this situation.
    Or let the occ DD extend to your pet which would speed up solo's, and be a boon to BST's in party situations. It's not as if this would break the game, or make BST one of the top 5 DD's.
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    Boosting a WS that <5% of BSTs have (that you can only get while not using PDT axes) is not going to fix the problem people are complaining about with BST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    Boosting a WS that <5% of BSTs have (that you can only get while not using PDT axes) is not going to fix the problem people are complaining about with BST.
    Dual PDT axes are gimp in most situations as of the update. So they`ve already helped us improve kill speed. Boosting Cloudsplitter would just go one step further.
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    Boosting Cloudsplitter wouldn't affect most Beastmasters, because most Beastmasters will never have access to the weaponskill.

    Imagine if they put Blood Pact Delay -15 (allowed to pass the cap) on Nirvana. It wouldn't be a "fix" for summoner.
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    Boosting Cloudsplitter wouldn't affect most Beastmasters, because most Beastmasters will never have access to the weaponskill.
    Boosting Cloudsplitter would boost Cloudsplitter.

    Did you take my post 100% seriously before? That might be our problem.
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