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    Quote Originally Posted by Keinn View Post
    ROFL Septimus
    Come on, tell me that I am wrong. :P
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    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST~~~!!!!!!!!!!

    Srsly though, spam it with Provoke for maximum haet.
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    Woo hoo! Warriors are tanks again! And it isn't really a boost macro unless there is a DBZ reference in say or with an emote.

    But seriously, I wouldn't take adding job traits as an indicator of what they want the job to do. They gave RDMs Shield Mastery with our fantastic F shield skill, they gave Bards Fencer, and they gave WHMs Shield Defense Bonus for our awesome D shield skill. For real, I am not making this up.
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    Played around on test server to see if a fix was on the way.. not yet at least. Cloudsplitter is still unchanged.

    @100tp in WS set (STR+90, MND+42, MAB+12-24):
    Outside Abyssea
    lv.90 without TP bonus axe: 800+/-
    lv.90 with TP bonus axe: 1000+/-
    lv.95 without TP bonus axe: 900+/-
    lv.95 with TP bonus axe: 1100+/-

    Inside Abyssea (RR, Lion, Ultimate atmas)
    lv.90 without TP bonus axe: 1600+/-
    lv.90 with TP bonus axe: 2200+/-
    lv.95 without TP bonus axe: 1800+/-
    lv.95 with TP bonus axe: 2500+/-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keinn View Post
    Played around on test server to see if a fix was on the way.. not yet at least. Cloudsplitter is still unchanged.

    @100tp in WS set (STR+90, MND+42, MAB+12-24):
    Outside Abyssea
    lv.90 without TP bonus axe: 800+/-
    lv.90 with TP bonus axe: 1000+/-
    lv.95 without TP bonus axe: 900+/-
    lv.95 with TP bonus axe: 1100+/-

    Inside Abyssea (RR, Lion, Ultimate atmas)
    lv.90 without TP bonus axe: 1600+/-
    lv.90 with TP bonus axe: 2200+/-
    lv.95 without TP bonus axe: 1800+/-
    lv.95 with TP bonus axe: 2500+/-
    Thanks for testing that out for us. Even though it wasn't good news T_T.
    I look forward to being disappointed by what SE calls balanced in the future <_<.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areola View Post
    Thanks for testing that out for us. Even though it wasn't good news T_T.
    I look forward to being disappointed by what SE calls balanced in the future <_<.
    Balance is a lie. It can be considered as the bigfoot or loch ness monster of FFXI. A mythological creature that people search for their entire lives, but will die without seeing.
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    I SEEN IT!

    *shows a blurry photo*
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    *looks closely* That's clearly a picture of a moogle in a taco costume. I don't even...
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    Yah.... but he is playing a gameboy and balancing on a log... so that's game balance.
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    I just found a Dev reply on a japanese "Cloudsplitter's damage is terrible" thread.
    こんにちは。

    実機のテスト環境でアレコレと設定を変更しつつ、実際にダメージ比較を見せてもらいながら、担当者と話をしてきました。

    * 与ダメージ量について
    アビセアエリアで「ランページ」と「クラウドスプリッタ」の与ダメージ量を比較する場合には、それぞれのWSに適した装備品とアートマをセットして比較してみてください。またアビセアエリア外で比較する場合、それぞれのWSに適した装備品で比較してみてください。

    いずれの場合においてもランページを上回る与ダメージ量を上回る結果となりました。
    (ちなみにアビセアエリアで、ランページ:2,000~3,000程度、クラウドスプリッタ:4,000程度です。)

    特に格上の敵(テスト環境では自分よりも5レベル高い敵を対象としました。)と戦った場合の安定感はなかなかのものです。


    * プライマルレンドとの比較について
    クラウドスプリッタの魔法命中率は非常に高く、プライマルレンドの3倍以上の値が設定されています。
    またステータスによるダメージボーナスも、プライマルレンドよりも上に設定されています。

    ですので魔法命中を気にせず、魔法攻撃力アップやステータスアップに装備枠を使える分、プライマルレンドよりも優れているWSだと言えますし、実際の与ダメージ量も上回ります。


    * 備考
    巷で系統係数(?)と呼ばれているような値で計算してみたところ、与ダメージ量が若干少なくなりました。



    ということで、この結果には僕もびっくりでした。結構どころか、かなり強いです。
    魔法防御ダウンのペットや魔法攻撃力アップの装備品が欲しくなりましたっ!(チラッチラッ
    My Japanese is only soso, so there may be some translation errors (and a contradiction), but here's what it says to the best of my understanding :
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    Hello!
    We created a test environment using existing practical equipment in order to test damage, so that we could discuss it with who is in charge.

    Amount of damage:
    In abyssea area, test an equal number of Rampages and Cloudsplitters with appropriate equipment and atmas for comparison. After that, try it in outside abyssea.

    In each case, Rampage did more damage. (By the way, in abyssea Ramage did 2000-3000, Cloudsplitter did 4000 damage)
    Hence the contradiction.. Maybe I mistranslate the rampage did more damage part?

    Especially in the case of stronger enemies (5 levels or more above) they felt very balanced.

    Comparison to Primal Rend:

    Cloudsplitter's magic damage bonus calculation is very high, at least 3 times higher than Primal Rend. Also, Primal Rend does not get the damage bonus status.

    Because these are both 1 hit magic damage WS, we use similar magic attack enhancing equipment for both. However, we can say that Cloudsplitter in comparison to Primal Rend is superior at damage.

    Note:
    When used with more publicly accepted factors, the damage is decreased.

    To my surprise, the results of the test are that this is a great strong WS. I would like to see more magic attack equipment or pets who can lower magic defense added to suppliement this. (Chiracchira~
    This was followed by another 8 pages of Japanese people agreeing / disagreeing with them. It sounds like they are playing the "What are you talking about, its great as it is!" card, but I'm still hoping with more feedback SE will eventually consider giving this WS a much needed boost.
    (The extra MAB gear and M.Defense down pet moves would be a nice addition though.)
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