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  1. #41
    Player Kasandaro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    TH procs can only land on the first hit.
    I haven't had the inclination to run that parse - call me lazy.

    Or did you mean that the Add. Eff.: TH Upgrade can only land on the first swing of the the main hand in any combo? (Could be parsed by THF/DNC single-wielding and using Drain Samba, to track what procs - also another parse I don't want to deal with.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Your base Level of Treasure Hunter is determined by your Base TH, Plus Gear. For instance:

    A Player with Treasure Hunter II, when Striking a mob, Would inflict "Treasure Hunter Lv. 2" on the Enemy. Upon which each upgrade would increase it by 1.

    A Player with TH2 trait, Thief's Knife, and Assassin Armlets would inflict "Treasure Hunter Lv 4" on the Enemy, and so on.
    True, but the first time you see the message, you will always see your TH level +1. As a TH6, my first message is always a level 7 effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesh View Post
    True, but the first time you see the message, you will always see your TH level +1. As a TH6, my first message is always a level 7 effect.
    That's because it doesn't say when TH is applied, only when it's upgraded. So with TH6, you put it on and get no message, it's still on though. And only when a melee hit upgrades it, you get a message. This can be proven easily, get TH on with TH6, then unequip all TH gear. The next upgrade will still be to TH7, which means TH6 was on before, even though you didn't have gear for it.
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    I meant TH level up add effects can't proc on the 2nd/3rd hit of a double/triple attack procs, or on additional hits from Occasionally attacks twice/2-4 times/etc weapons.
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    Does keeping your TH gear on increase the chance of TH proc'n with melee attacks/JA? Also is there a cap to TH proc's, I've seen TH proc at 9 most of the time, I think I saw 10 once but can't confirm this.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    There's been some limited testing, apparently it doesn't help, or least not at a noticeable difference. But it's hard to judge, personally I'd say it isn't worth, since fulltiming lack of up to 7% Haste and a decent weapon are quite noticeable in your damage output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    There's been some limited testing, apparently it doesn't help, or least not at a noticeable difference. But it's hard to judge, personally I'd say it isn't worth, since fulltiming lack of up to 7% Haste and a decent weapon are quite noticeable in your damage output.
    Mind linking these tests? I haven't seen anything worthwhile. If you have, please share.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryozen View Post
    Mind linking these tests? I haven't seen anything worthwhile. If you have, please share.
    Don't know I'm afraid, it's somewhere in the junkpile that is BG. It was mentioned by some semi-reliable players, so I assumed it was true. I can say I didn't notice any difference personally either, but didn't conclude any kind of real testing, just from the times I was too lazy to switch out TH gear (like when fighting normal mobs for triggers). That's why I said it's not noticeable if there is a difference.
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    So the answer you meant to give was, "I don't know."

    I see.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryozen View Post
    So the answer you meant to give was, "I don't know."

    I see.
    No it wasn't, the answer I meant to give was exactly the answer I gave. That "apparently it doesn't help" and that even if it does it's "not a noticeable difference" and that "personally I'd say it isn't worth [it]".
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