Low End Content *Until* Endgame Content

[Alkalinehoe]

I am content with leeching in Abyssea then skilling up afterwards.

I just want to see new players in the game. Because the grinding aspect of the game BEFORE endgame is turning off new players. Basically the game isn't fun until endgame.

Garrison, Campaign, Assault, Besieged, BCNM/ENMs, Missions, etc are all activities you can do before you hit 75. I've only done a few Garrisons, but they are pretty fun and I do wish more people were into them. It is unlikely unless SE adds some OMG awesome item from them.

[Olor]

I swear, people won't be content until outside abyssea EXP is twenty times better and you get a gold sticker for leveling "the right way."

I have no problem with Abyssea - I just can't do it... and I know there "is" content - but I want content that advances my levels - BCNMs, garrison, etc. just takes me away from leveling - therefore increasing the length of time I am stuck mostly alone in the world outside of Abyssea.

Basically grinding all by yourself for a month or two till you hit cap is boring - campaign is a good suggestion except - wouldn't it be really difficult for me to do since no one really does it anymore? (Please correct me if I am wrong - but if I went out on the field by myself wouldn't I get my arse kicked?) And can you skill up during campaign? I was under the impression that you can't... again corrections would be welcome...

Back when I quit last time tons of people were doing campaign but I don't think people really do it anymore.

[Alkalinehoe]

I have no problem with Abyssea - I just can't do it... and I know there "is" content - but I want content that advances my levels - BCNMs, garrison, etc. just takes me away from leveling - therefore increasing the length of time I am stuck mostly alone in the world outside of Abyssea.

Basically grinding all by yourself for a month or two till you hit cap is boring - campaign is a good suggestion except - wouldn't it be really difficult for me to do since no one really does it anymore? (Please correct me if I am wrong - but if I went out on the field by myself wouldn't I get my arse kicked?) And can you skill up during campaign? I was under the impression that you can't... again corrections would be welcome...

Back when I quit last time tons of people were doing campaign but I don't think people really do it anymore.

So the people who want new "middle game" content want it to be fun or they want it to give them new ways to earn EXP. If you look at this game's past, neither have meshed together. Even with Abyssea leveling is still a chore and not all that fun. I think it's a case of people wanting cake and eating it too.

Campaign can be soloed, especially in the weaker versions like Gusta/Ronfaure/Saruta. DRK/WHM was pretty fun at 75/80. I usually capped EXP and since every mob is aspirable, i never really ran out of MP either. To get best results you always want to be able to cure/take damage/deal damage to earn as much points. They mentioned they were adjusting campaign so hopefully exp bonuses will at least triple to make it competitive.

[blowfin]

campaign is a good suggestion except - wouldn't it be really difficult for me to do since no one really does it anymore? (Please correct me if I am wrong - but if I went out on the field by myself wouldn't I get my arse kicked?) And can you skill up during campaign? I was under the impression that you can't... again corrections would be welcome...

Campaign should be fine as a solo excursion these days. I don`t know when you quit but they added a bunch of NPCs who can appear at battles who`ll cure and raise you, helps a lot. Try to fight near or with them and the other NPCs. Also, try to keep reraise up, you can buy scrolls from the NPCs at Campaign.

Correct that you dont get skill ups in campaign, after about level 175 or so. I`m not positive where it actually caps out though. If you`re worried just cap yourself out before or after. It not a big drama.

You could also try making yourself a Moblin Maze, but a lot of work goes into making good mazes.

[wish12oz]

I have no problem with Abyssea - I just can't do it... and I know there "is" content - but I want content that advances my levels - BCNMs, garrison, etc. just takes me away from leveling - therefore increasing the length of time I am stuck mostly alone in the world outside of Abyssea.

By not going to abyssea to gain exp, you are intentionally increasing the length of time you are stuck alone. You could have 90 in 2 days of exping in abyssea, or 65 with 2 days of exping outside. You've also been able to go there since 30.

[blowfin]

And by low level, I mean levels 1-74. That entire range.

1 to 30 or so is fine the way it is, and I don`t usually say this but if you have a problem getting to 30, you`re doing it wrong. 30-75 is devoid of good, current content though, but everyone knows that.

I swear, people won't be content until outside abyssea EXP is twenty times better and you get a gold sticker for leveling "the right way."

Some people, probably yeah. Most people aren`t that daft though, you just see the extreme opinions on here. There is a valid point that many old areas for leveling from 30-75 are essentially graveyards though. Returning and new players seem to want more options in that regard, and I don`t blame them.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

EDIT: And by low level, I mean levels 1-74. That entire range.

Don't you mean 1-30? ^^

[Luvbunny]

This is rather an easy fix to be honest. SE can do the following adjustment to make it more attractive to lvl 30-70

- Increase the xp reward from FoV, double it. Also decrease the mob needed to 5 and limited to 1-2 type of mobs similar to Abyssea.
- Lower the xp loss from having NPC Fellow from 30% to 10% so that it is more feasible for trio to chain T-VT without having to make a full group.
- Make xp chest dropped from mob, with xp from 500 (at lower lvls) to 1000 (at higher lvls) and grant us similar temp items as Abyssea when you are under the signet and spend conquest points at outpost NPC.
- Create a similar "atmas" for outside Abby, maybe granted by completing missions, with Windurst missions give you 3-5 magic atmas, Sandy defense atmas, Bastok attack atmas, different ones from CoP, ToAU and WoTG. Call it something else or keep it atmas to make it less confusing.
- Add more FoV in dungeons, ToAU areas, and WoTG areas.
- Give us more variety of gears obtainable by spending conquest points etc...

By doing those changes you will see more lvl synch group moving from one FoV to another areas and getting from 30-75 will be much less painful. On the downside, all of those people who do trial weapons will start seeing much competitions from normal xp party...

[Rambus]

What about new incentives for players to level in existing areas? Namely, low level adventurers.

EDIT: And by low level, I mean levels 1-74. That entire range.

I do not see the point in making lower level contant anymore, you level too fast.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I do not see the point in making lower level contant anymore, you level too fast.

Yeah, who wants level 30 content anyway? lol