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  1. #11
    Player Rambus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    What about new incentives for players to level in existing areas? Namely, low level adventurers.

    EDIT: And by low level, I mean levels 1-74. That entire range.
    I do not see the point in making lower level contant anymore, you level too fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    The game for the longest time has been about getting to 75 then doing missions endgame what not. CoP before the nerfs meant you had to have least one 75 and if it wasn't the right job you then had to whm to 60, rdm or nin to 60 just so you had a decent job for all the level cap fights. Unless you only did shout groups that either failed over and over or got really lucky.
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    I do not see the point in making lower level contant anymore, you level too fast.
    Yeah, who wants level 30 content anyway? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe View Post
    Garrison, Campaign, Assault, Besieged, BCNM/ENMs, Missions, etc are all activities you can do before you hit 75. I've only done a few Garrisons, but they are pretty fun and I do wish more people were into them. It is unlikely unless SE adds some OMG awesome item from them.
    Levels 1-59 can't do Besieged, Campaign, Assault.

    Garrison requires the new player to farm the item (how will they even know what item to farm? Does it tell them ingame?) AND gather together a group of like-minded adventurers to participate.

    Garrison should be revamped to be like Campaign, except each one have a "recommended level" or level cap. Like the one outside Sandy be an hourly event that players level 1-10 to participate in. And the one in Dunes be an hourly event for levels 10-20. You see where I'm going with this.

    Also, look at this:

    Pre-Abyssea Endgame Content:
    Salvage, Campaign, Assault, Besieged, Sky, Sea, Einherjar, Dynamis, Limbus, HNM, Nyzul, ZNM.

    SE has endgame nailed down to an ART FORM. What about a fun leveling method until that point?
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    90 MNK. 90 BLM. 90 COR. 90 WAR.

    All POST-Abyssea LEECHED and proud of it.

    Cept MNK (Got up to 41 in 2009). All that time wasted camping Retaliators....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    I have no problem with Abyssea - I just can't do it... and I know there "is" content - but I want content that advances my levels - BCNMs, garrison, etc. just takes me away from leveling - therefore increasing the length of time I am stuck mostly alone in the world outside of Abyssea.

    Basically grinding all by yourself for a month or two till you hit cap is boring - campaign is a good suggestion except - wouldn't it be really difficult for me to do since no one really does it anymore? (Please correct me if I am wrong - but if I went out on the field by myself wouldn't I get my arse kicked?) And can you skill up during campaign? I was under the impression that you can't... again corrections would be welcome...

    Back when I quit last time tons of people were doing campaign but I don't think people really do it anymore.
    So the people who want new "middle game" content want it to be fun or they want it to give them new ways to earn EXP. If you look at this game's past, neither have meshed together. Even with Abyssea leveling is still a chore and not all that fun. I think it's a case of people wanting cake and eating it too.

    Campaign can be soloed, especially in the weaker versions like Gusta/Ronfaure/Saruta. DRK/WHM was pretty fun at 75/80. I usually capped EXP and since every mob is aspirable, i never really ran out of MP either. To get best results you always want to be able to cure/take damage/deal damage to earn as much points. They mentioned they were adjusting campaign so hopefully exp bonuses will at least triple to make it competitive.
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    Levels 1-59 can't do Besieged, Campaign, Assault.
    Um... I do all 3 of those all the time int hat level range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    campaign is a good suggestion except - wouldn't it be really difficult for me to do since no one really does it anymore? (Please correct me if I am wrong - but if I went out on the field by myself wouldn't I get my arse kicked?) And can you skill up during campaign? I was under the impression that you can't... again corrections would be welcome...
    Campaign should be fine as a solo excursion these days. I don`t know when you quit but they added a bunch of NPCs who can appear at battles who`ll cure and raise you, helps a lot. Try to fight near or with them and the other NPCs. Also, try to keep reraise up, you can buy scrolls from the NPCs at Campaign.

    Correct that you dont get skill ups in campaign, after about level 175 or so. I`m not positive where it actually caps out though. If you`re worried just cap yourself out before or after. It not a big drama.

    You could also try making yourself a Moblin Maze, but a lot of work goes into making good mazes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe View Post
    Campaign can be soloed, especially in the weaker versions like Gusta/Ronfaure/Saruta.
    Can be soloed at 61?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    Levels 1-59 can't do Besieged, Campaign, Assault.

    Garrison requires the new player to farm the item (how will they even know what item to farm? Does it tell them ingame?) AND gather together a group of like-minded adventurers to participate.

    Garrison should be revamped to be like Campaign, except each one have a "recommended level" or level cap. Like the one outside Sandy be an hourly event that players level 1-10 to participate in. And the one in Dunes be an hourly event for levels 10-20. You see where I'm going with this.

    Also, look at this:

    Pre-Abyssea Endgame Content:
    Salvage, Campaign, Assault, Besieged, Sky, Sea, Einherjar, Dynamis, Limbus, HNM, Nyzul, ZNM.

    SE has endgame nailed down to an ART FORM. What about a fun leveling method until that point?
    I said 1-74, which is what this thread's topic was about. And sure, 1-59 can do besieged. Great place to skill up at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    You could also try making yourself a Moblin Maze, but a lot of work goes into making good mazes.
    Yeah I was told that you can't really solo MMM either... and I have no idea how to start that.
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