job balance

[zataz]

i feel geo needs to be gimped a bit so that bard can be used more in events when people say 4 song bard no thanks geo yes please i feel there might be a issue of some sorta that might need to be looked into thanks for your time

[Ketaru]

Gimping GEO would just make it harder for everybody to complete events. What needs to happen is that other jobs, like BRD, need to made stronger. Maybe the additional songs above two should be made the new norm, rather than dependent on certain pieces of gear. Maybe (gasp) Nocturne should stack with Addle! Or BRD songs should be undispellable.

[zataz]

just because it makes it harder that isnt really a reason to not to change it im sorry but difficult content is whats fun im not calling for it to be useless also i just want brd brought up to were its comparable

[Ketaru]

Except that the entire point of your post is you want to gimp GEO to make other jobs more marketable. Instead of, you know, making other jobs more marketable by making them more powerful. There is no real legitimate reason why Nocturne can't stack with Addle, for example, other than some nebulous concept of "overpowered."

Why are people always so eager to drag some jobs down, rather than bringing other jobs up?

[bryangelos]

The problem isn't brd is useless its people are using geo for things bard doesn't have or no longer need. People use to bring brd for haste/acc/attack. Problem is now blus and other jobs don't need the extra haste. If you are going to bring a geo to Vex/attunement then a cor would suit the acc/attack better then a brd as they can also dd.

Then you have the problem of bst and mage setups. Brd use to be used for its refresh ability which again thanks to blm and sch getting a ws that gives them mp back, they no longer need ballads. So again you have a problem where geo/cor are used and not a brd. As both of these jobs can buff mage jobs so they have more acc and deal more dmg.

Gimping geo and if you are saying geo might as well throw cor in there as it has buffs brd doesn't to. Then it will fix nothing for brd because it still only offers a few buffs. Also lets not forget its still the only job of the 3 brd/cor/geo that can give more then 2 buffs. Brd can give 5 different people 4 different buffs each.

What brd needs is the ability to buff mages with something other then refresh. If they did it would be used again in parties. Also give brds the ability to raise magic evasion and bam, brd is used again.

Brd still has the most powerful refresh buff, it still has Sentinel's Scherzo, and it still has the ability to give haste/acc/attack. Brd was built for melee jobs and brds biggest problem right now is melee setups are not used as much.

[Lonnan]

Except that the entire point of your post is you want to gimp GEO to make other jobs more marketable. Instead of, you know, making other jobs more marketable by making them more powerful. There is no real legitimate reason why Nocturne can't stack with Addle, for example, other than some nebulous concept of "overpowered."

Why are people always so eager to drag some jobs down, rather than bringing other jobs up?

I have followed the forums for years and never actually posted but I just had to post here. Your response is absolutely perfect and should be how the Devs and players address job balance. Jobs shouldn't be sacraficed on the alter of game balance to make other jobs desirable. Rather, underperforming jobs should receive attention to make their abilities more useful for current content. Everyone has jobs they like to play and before you gather your torches and pitchforks to attack one job, imagine how you would feel if you saw the villagers heading to your door.

[Hoshi]

We bring a bard to almost all alliance content we do. We also bring two geomancers. There is very little content that's not made easier by bringing a bard although things can be done without a bard when necessary. Nerfing geomancer would not make us more likely to bring an extra bard. It might make it so that we couldn't clear some high level content.