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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    They won't do a visual remaster/rerelease because it would probably not bring them enough money to be worth the cost. I'm fairly sure they commented on something like this at the original announcement of future plans for the game (where console support ending was announced).

    The current dedicated FFXI players is not a large enough playerbase to justify something like this.
    They could do a new mmo based on FFXI with the FFXIV engine.. There are allot of people playing FFXIV now that would love to go back to a new FFXI plus all the existing FFXI players and those that have left because the game changed over the years... Doing FFXI as a new mmo would also bring in some new blood/players. I know I would play it, FFXIV has some cool stuff in it but it is missing allot of what FFXI is and how you progress, it is not the same game. It is way to casual for FFXI player base.
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    They could do a new mmo based on FFXI with the FFXIV engine..
    FFXI plopped into a new engine simply wouldn't sell well in the current MMO market. And that's even if it was current XI. The "old" XI that some people have asked for would sell even worse today, because nobody has the patience for long waits and cooldowns anymore. We live in a world of instant gratification, so much so to the point where if they put even the slightest grind into FFXIV, everyone nerdrages and theratens to quit. And the biggest grind in XIV today, the anima weapons, isn't one quarter the grind of even a current relic weapon in XI.

    If anyone even considering playing this game heard about the aeonic weapons, or mythics, or the upcoming relic upgrades, they would go "hell no" because (almost) nobody has the patience for that kind of thing anymore. The people that do are the ones that are already playing this game, or original everquest, or any other early generation MMO. It's unfortunate, but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    FFXI plopped into a new engine simply wouldn't sell well in the current MMO market. And that's even if it was current XI. The "old" XI that some people have asked for would sell even worse today, because nobody has the patience for long waits and cooldowns anymore. We live in a world of instant gratification, so much so to the point where if they put even the slightest grind into FFXIV, everyone nerdrages and theratens to quit. And the biggest grind in XIV today, the anima weapons, isn't one quarter the grind of even a current relic weapon in XI.

    If anyone even considering playing this game heard about the aeonic weapons, or mythics, or the upcoming relic upgrades, they would go "hell no" because (almost) nobody has the patience for that kind of thing anymore. The people that do are the ones that are already playing this game, or original everquest, or any other early generation MMO. It's unfortunate, but true.
    I agree allot has changed with players and allot want instant gratification.
    I think there is enough though, I think you underestimate the amount of people who would want this ... You would not believe the people sick of FFXIV and want something like FFXI again.. FFXIV probably beat out FFXI in subscription in no time but why cant a game just do well, why does it have to be a mega hit... FFXI was never a huge game but it did well enough to be SE #1 money maker and save FFXIV.
    I doubt it will ever happen but I can dream..
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    You would not believe the people sick of FFXIV
    I do believe, and I also do believe the people who still enjoy it. The thing is, the things annoying people in FFXIV are things that would annoy them even worse in FFXI. Frankly I think the entire MMORPG bubble might be about to burst.

    The target audience of typical MMOs, young adults, which grew up with the original ones and FFXI and even WoW, are all now much older and most of them have full time jobs and will hate any game that has big grinds in it (even if it isn't necessairly an MMORPG). FFXIV has this problem, but so does FFXI, and every other MMORPG on the market. Love or hate FFXI, it still has big grinds, even with all the help the RoV KIs give. FFXIV has big grinds, WoW has big grinds, they all do. And that's what people are getting tired of. (I myself have been unable to get full time work in my field for years, and now I"m soon expecting to take full time work in a totally different area and will likely not have time to play an MMO seriously anymore at that point. I currently am actively subscribed to both FFXI and FFXIV and dabble in both. I will almost certainly have to cancel one of them once I start working 40-50 hours a week...)

    why does it have to be a mega hit...
    Honestly, the FFXI staff is probably asking the same question, but if it doesn't make a certain amount of money X dollars, they won't be able to leverage more staff/resources to do what we want them to do. I think DQX is in essentially the same boat as FFXI at this point, even though it's a newer game (and not available in the US).

    I'm willing to bet that RoV performed better than devs expected, however, and that's why we're getting more new content than was originally planned.
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    I am not disagreeing with you..
    FFXIV is a different grind. it is the same grind over and over.. It progression vertical or what ever they call it just does not seem to be liked. I mean everything is out dated in weeks.

    For that matter a new FFXI just needs to use its progression it has now for gear.. It does not need to be as hard as it was for cop. Lets face it FFXI we have now is majorly nerfed and not so hard and my server has over 700 people on right now.

    I left FFXI for a little easier game but not such a casual game as it is though.. Something between FFXIV and ffxi would be nice with some harder content that dropped some nice gear,

    The raids in FFXIV are not done because they drop garbage, tomes gear is easier to get and is just as good.. You put better rewards in those raids and people will do them.

    I just want some gear that is actually not obsoleted in less than a month. I want to run a dungeon that aint the same cookie cutter recycled content dungeon. Only reason I still sub to FFXIV is me and my girlfriend have a house and she does not want too loose it if the game gets better and we want to go back...
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    I just want some gear that is actually not obsoleted in less than a month.
    I don't understand why this bothers people so much. I had the exact opposite problem in FFXI for years, where I was wearing the same gear and played tons of content without ever finding an upgrade (or at least an enticing/impactful sidegrade). I was tired of looking the same all the time, and I didn't have anything to shoot for. And that's why I like FFXI more now than I did the first time I took a break from it, because I don't have that problem anymore. FFXIV has glamours so you can keep your look if you like the way you looked before getting new upgrades, and FFXI has style lock which more or less does the same thing.
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    Also do not forget, there are only two variations of each character model. There's really nothing that sets you apart based on your face from other people. Everyone looks the same; I ran into tons of people who had my character model on FFXI. What I liked in FFXIV is that I can feel more unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    Also do not forget, there are only two variations of each character model. There's really nothing that sets you apart based on your face from other people. Everyone looks the same; I ran into tons of people who had my character model on FFXI. What I liked in FFXIV is that I can feel more unique.
    Really a game a game 15 years newer would have better and more character models? Really imagine that. But I guess that is why making a new FFXI with the FFXIV engine would make sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I don't understand why this bothers people so much. I had the exact opposite problem in FFXI for years, where I was wearing the same gear and played tons of content without ever finding an upgrade (or at least an enticing/impactful sidegrade). I was tired of looking the same all the time, and I didn't have anything to shoot for. And that's why I like FFXI more now than I did the first time I took a break from it, because I don't have that problem anymore. FFXIV has glamours so you can keep your look if you like the way you looked before getting new upgrades, and FFXI has style lock which more or less does the same thing.

    I agree people did look the same but glamour solves all that.. Anyway I hate continually doing the same thing and all I feel that I do is work for gear that is garbage. I run roulette through cookie cutter recycled over abused game of dodgeball dungeons.
    You like the game and its content and that is fine I dont and no matter what anyone says it wont make me like the game till they release some new different content not just the content that I just did.. Do all MMO's recycle content sure bit not like this and I am not playing them so I do not care. I see FFXIV has potential . Again why is this turning into debate over FFXIV. I was just stating I would like a new version of FFXI maybe on the FFXIV engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashred View Post
    I agree people did look the same but glamour solves all that.. Anyway I hate continually doing the same thing and all I feel that I do is work for gear that is garbage. I run roulette through cookie cutter recycled over abused game of dodgeball dungeons.
    You like the game and its content and that is fine I dont and no matter what anyone says it wont make me like the game till they release some new different content not just the content that I just did.. Do all MMO's recycle content sure bit not like this and I am not playing them so I do not care. I see FFXIV has potential . Again why is this turning into debate over FFXIV. I was just stating I would like a new version of FFXI maybe on the FFXIV engine.
    See for me it's not even that important what the gear does functionally. As long as I'm able to enjoy the content it's not that important to me if I have to keep up with the Joneses. The answer to why you think it's turning into an ffxiv debate is because you brought it up (and you picked on it, as is common here).

    At any rate, what you're asking for will absolutely never happen, I would bet my life on it. IF you want FFXI on FFXIV engine, you may as well just play FFXIV, because they're not going to do it. They basically ruled out a remaster in their original announcement about the future of the game. It would be a wonderful thing to be sure - who wouldn't want their favorite game to keep up with the times - but it will simply never happen. The good news is we can look forward to content updates continuing for the FFXI we already know and love. if only they would just unlock the frame rate so things feel smoother, that would be amazing.
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