BST adjustment did not address the problem, Devs please read

[Gwydion]

Geeze being a little extreme aren't you people? BST can still do the SAME stuff they did before except now they are forced to run into danger. Yes its a nerf but the job still functions the same and people still want BST for everything. I think you are being a little extreme here.

I think the issue, as it stands today, is the lack of completeness for Beastmaster being a viable front-line job. As others have stated, Beastmaster's native job traits, abilities and skills (Shield=300) just doesn't allow the player to defend him/herself when fighting within 7 yalms of the monster.

To make matters worse, the randomness with which pet abilities execute (random 'out of range' messages which vary by monster size), makes playing Beastmaster an incredibly frustrating experience.

In the past, SE has acknowledged the need for changes to Beastmaster. (For example it took about 12-18 months after Seekers of Adoulin was released for Beastmasters to get iLvl Pets (HeraldHenry) and Ready move reforms). Yes, it took a very long time but I was grateful for SE hearing our concerns and making those changes.

However, today, I feel as if spending the past decade playing Beastmaster....seem....like a huge waste of time (and money).

[dasva]

Geeze being a little extreme aren't you people? BST can still do the SAME stuff they did before except now they are forced to run into danger. Yes its a nerf but the job still functions the same and people still want BST for everything. I think you are being a little extreme here.

What game are you playing? All I see are shouts for plds and MBing jobs. I haven't used bst for anything outside of xping or easily soloable content since shortly after the update. Switched to other jobs that are just as safe or safer and do similar dmg or better when started getting wrecked. Only thing that has changed is which gear to retire

[Leonardus]

As we’ve mentioned before, the development team has no plans to change the range at which beastmasters can use commands. As Matsui previously stated, we want beastmasters to be close range battle jobs and bear the risk of taking damage in the front line. This change was made, because players were using beastmaster to attack from the back line, and this was against what the development team had intended for beastmaster.

Your players were probably doing this because you made the charge timer too short while also -significantly- boosting the damage of Ready moves.

I'd say you adjusted too much at once in our favor, but I suspect this was the plan all along (Long before the players were informed).

Adjusting the 12+ year old range in the final hurrah of the game's life was a really poor, jarring decision. Sorry, Mr. Matsui. I wish I could say something more positive.

Thanks for the recent jug pets. Those are nice.

[Hoshi]

Sorry I'm completely unfamiliar with beastmaster. Is there a reason that you and your pet cannot stand behind the monster while it is held by a tank?

[HopefulNAPlayer]

Sorry I'm completely unfamiliar with beastmaster. Is there a reason that you and your pet cannot stand behind the monster while it is held by a tank?

Yes, Hoshi. The Beastmaster must be within 7 yalms of the pet or the mob in order to execute Ready moves. However, you will still randomly get 'out of range' when trying to execute pet Ready moves depending on the size of the player, the pet or the mob. Aside from it being an incredibly tight restriction, there is a random occurrence of the Ready ability not executing altogether if your pet is not visible on screen.

[Hoshi]

Yes, Hoshi. The Beastmaster must be within 7 yalms of the pet or the mob in order to execute Ready moves. However, you will still randomly get 'out of range' when trying to execute pet Ready moves depending on the size of the player, the pet or the mob. Aside from it being an incredibly tight restriction, there is a random occurrence of the Ready ability not executing altogether if your pet is not visible on screen.

Right, but if you stand within 7 yalms of your pet, directly behind your pet who is directly behind the monster which is being held by a tank or a trust tank, why wouldn't that work? I understand that depending on the size of the mob you may have to be less than 7 yalms from your pet but from the posts here it sounds like bst is unable to position their monster behind the enemy and I am wondering why that is the case?

[Jile]

Right, but if you stand within 7 yalms of your pet, directly behind your pet who is directly behind the monster which is being held by a tank or a trust tank, why wouldn't that work? I understand that depending on the size of the mob you may have to be less than 7 yalms from your pet but from the posts here it sounds like bst is unable to position their monster behind the enemy and I am wondering why that is the case?

Yes, its possible to be behind the mob with our pets. It's not always possible or prudent to do so especially if we're playing with other people and not just trusts.

An example where we want hate on our pets only: Demolition Squad II. Typically the BST will pull the nm BST to avoid having someone being charmed. We have to fight behind the nm to avoid charm and at present we cant use JA's that far from our pets.

[dasva]

Right, but if you stand within 7 yalms of your pet, directly behind your pet who is directly behind the monster which is being held by a tank or a trust tank, why wouldn't that work? I understand that depending on the size of the mob you may have to be less than 7 yalms from your pet but from the posts here it sounds like bst is unable to position their monster behind the enemy and I am wondering why that is the case?

Because it's completely broken. Recently I've been on top of my pet and it still wouldn't fire off because one of the 6 mobs attacking it wasn't in range despite it being as close as it could get but other mobs blocking it's way. Plus if just standing behind the monster is fine for bst then it's fine for real melees so might as well use those instead

[larrymc]

There are many fights where multiple enemies appear. Lets take dominion as an example. The primary dragon will quite often reposition itself, and our pets will on their own reposition as well, quite often moving out of the tight 7 yalm range. So you trying to hit ready, or reward, and its not working - your not sure what the problem is at first - dominion lag, range, etc. Then with the adds pop out the pet can bounce just about anywhere.

I suspect that a slight adjustment of the range from 7 yalms to 10 yalms would solve nearly all the problems - the master would still be in the fight (this is the stated goal of SE), but the pet has a slightly longer leash to do its thing.

[shaduf]

SE Team, I appreciate all your hard efforts and developing the game in order to provide an enjoyable balanced game.

I am not a huge fan of BST; However I enjoyed playing as BST from time to time. And For sure it is unique and very interesting style job to play in FFXI.

When I first heard of the new adjustment for the BST I was sad about it, however, after I read the above excuse mentioned by “Grekuma” that “this was against what the development team had intended” it really irritated me. ……. I am not buying it.

We have been playing this game over a decade and after all this time BST backline style shouldn’t not be exited and it was a mistake, and they have just made this adjustment to fix a problem by creating another problem.

SE, if you are so desperately want to change BST style and to see him fighting in the front line, , shouldn’t in return give BST different job abilities and traits that would benefit BST by staying in Front Line anything that will sustain the level of enjoyment for the job.

BST is one of the popular jobs in FFXI, making a vital adjustment for the job should be considered carefully & wisely. The point is as I said earlier, I don’t play BST much and I don’t consider it to me as an important job, however my real life friend find BST as his supreme job, he is so crazy about BST. If incase he left the game I will eventually also stop playing FFXI even though I was not directly affected by BST adjustment.

I am not threating, I am just saying what could happened to me even though I am a non BST player. I am not welling to play FFXI without my friend. And I felt SE should be aware of this.

SE fulfill your dream and do whatever you were intended (over 10 years ago) to do to BST; however, it’s your role also to make the job in the same time enjoyable. Any Adjustments that would keep players to play BST.