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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    That's the main problem with XIV - It has and brought nothing new to the genre. XI at its time was a different MMO, it was unique. It was built around EQ as the baseline, but it took it a step further. FFXIV 1.0 was trying to do the same but due to Wada, they wanted to beat out Cataclysm and it failed pretty much because it was highly unfinished and used an Engine not suited for MMOs. Then came ARR, which was the perfect chance to take FFXIV 1.23 and make it a true successor to XI - Instead, it was designed to meet a standard, that it barely met.

    The fact the small team have done so much more with XI than even the XIV's latest heavensward expansion says a lot. You'd be right about the "promising pupil" if it was still a new release - but XIV is 2 years old now if we're ignoring 1.0 - 1.23 version. 2 years and it hardly evolved. in 2 years XIs made quite a lot of leaps from 2001 and was pushing towards Chains of Promathia, which many find one of the best MMO expansions for various reasons even if people hated the cap system..which pretty much every MMO utilizes in some way. If we're to think about expansion releases, in 5 months+ even Seekers did more, whereas in XIV, Heavensward did nothing in 5 months, because they were waiting on the usual patch update, which largely did nothing else but basically obsolete content on release. Like literally - No reason to do the new dungeons unless you want glamour, because Diadem drops gear superior to anything currently out raid wise and Thordan's Reign drops weapons superior to Savage Alexander largely.

    Then comes DQX - SE's other main series MMO, which also did quite a lot of interesting things. Same with Front Mission Online back in the day. Then you look at XIV ARR/HW, and you wonder: "What's different this time?" Then you read their official forum or other communities, and you find that, the fact people are content now and accept pretty much anything Yoshi throws at them, the game will never evolve, and Heavensward proves it. It was an expansion..yet the exact same as 2.0 era. So they make money now, why change a thing? The reason there's "hate" for XIV is because people love to hate on XI in that community even though they never played it (and it's obvious whenever they bring up examples.)
    I agree on everything here.

    One of the reasons I left XIV is because of the sadness I felt when I would look at those forums, and I would see XIV's playerbase was more concerned with something like "Eorzea's Next Top Model!" and it having thousands of posts, than they were for actually playing the game. One example of many of a game that has targeted the western mainstream audience hardcore, and abandoning it's Japanese roots and RPG gamers. Seems SE has been doing that alot lately. I could go on for several minutes with examples why I quit that game. It's alot of little things really, that add up.

    I liked the graphics. I liked the mounts. I liked how they did crafting classes, short of ruining the reason for their existence in the first place. They could take the damn crafting out and the game would suffer no ill effects. I really enjoyed the MSQ. I will miss the hell out of that and not being able to experience their story until the end. But that's about it. When I saw that the expansion was just going to be more of the same....I bailed out. It held my interest long enough to finish the MSQ and "beat" the expansion, but when I saw from there I would be doing nothing but more of the same for end game, it was my breaking point.

    When it comes to XIV, I give credit where it's due. Tanaka did a wonderful job on the base package. Slow as usual but that's always a SE trait. It's a shame he got to be the scapegoat for SE's decision to push the game out before it was ready. I can't say I miss the original vision he had for crafters though, so maybe it really was for the best he left lol...
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