FFXI crossover event comming to FFXIV

[Daniel_Hatcher]

But hey, I hope you guys have a great time during your celebration over at XIV. I'm sure you'll get some FFXI-ish reward or some damn thing. Just remember while you grind your DoHs for no real reason besides melding, and you replace all of your gear every other month or 3, and spend all gil you made off of materia on materia, it will never be as flipping awesome as the day you set foot in Vana'diel, and that is what makes FFXI #1 FF MMO!

"flipping awesome as the day you set foot in Vana'diel"

Which was when the game was plain awful, it took several Expansions before it got any good, I guess you're loving those rose-tinted glasses.

[Alhanelem]

You know, i'd rather replace my gear now and again than wear the same stuff for several years straight because every new item that comes out isn't useful to my job(s) while job X keeps getting new stuff patch after patch.

For me in particular, it hasn't been until the last year and a half or so that the jobs I play have gotten anything new/cool/cool looking. And it wasn't until not that long ago where we became actually able to display all that cosmetic event gear without sacrificing our stats.

[Vanfrano]

"flipping awesome as the day you set foot in Vana'diel"

Which was when the game was plain awful, it took several Expansions before it got any good, I guess you're loving those rose-tinted glasses.

The game was never as awful as you make it out to be. I started with the US release, I never ever got bored since. I am not saying it didn't have any flaws but it never pretended to be the perfect game in the first place, unlike your cherished FFXIV. I remember my first steps in San d'Oria, in Ronfaure, the music, the magic, the people I met. I cared about the world, cared for the NPCs of Vana'diel, cared for the friends I made, cared about my character, pretty much each and every piece of equipment I got had a story. I'm sorry if I've never been able to feel the same in FFXIV, I never cared about anything in Eorzea, never missed the game when I had to take a break for work or holidays, never was happy coming back after said break because there is nothing deep and attaching in this game.
If you like your memories of spamming FATEs, entering one-way dungeons through a hub, throwing equipment every three months, avoiding scripted red circles on the floor, exploring an empty world and not playing the way you want, good for you. We seem to prefer a slightly deeper experience.

[Alhanelem]

The game was never as awful as you make it out to be. I started with the US release, I never ever got bored since

We had it easy. The game was really, really rough prior to the NA release. A lot of changes were made, probably in anticipation of the NA playerbase not being as god tier as the JP playerbase, in the months before the NA launch.

Heck, ive heard accounts that the JP pre-launch beta was debatably worse than FFXIV 1.0's beta phases.

FFXI is an amazing game, but it didn't become amazing overnight.

[Vanfrano]

We had it easy. The game was really, really rough prior to the NA release. A lot of changes were made, probably in anticipation of the NA playerbase not being as god tier as the JP playerbase, in the months before the NA launch.

Heck, ive heard accounts that the JP pre-launch beta was debatably worse than FFXIV 1.0's beta phases.

FFXI is an amazing game, but it didn't become amazing overnight.

Indeed the release and the state of the game at JP release was bad, but it was their very first attempt at an MMO, 1.0 was their second, 2.0 was their third. FFXIV is two years old, five if you include 1.0. Zilart released one year after the original release and a lot of things were already fixed.

Anyway, come and play FFXI, you spend too much time around here, it's bad for your nerves.

[Raydeus]

Anyway, come and play FFXI, you spend too much time around here, it's bad for your nerves.

Better send him to XIV, last thing XI players probably want is a XIV apologist preaching to them non-freaking-stop. <_<

[Jin_Uzuki]

Amount of content? It's all rehashed content. It's not like they developed actual new systems for new features or anything. They're all just variations on existing themes amd mehcanics. It's no different than what's going on in FFXIV. Every FFXI update has some combination of new high tier mission fights (rehashes of old mission fights), new job points/gifts, and other BCNMs that are rehashes of existing ones (e.g. harder versions of old BCNMs, the avatars, etc.). The esha areas are literally a recolor of existing areas with different enemies and a different backstory. Ignoring these facts just speaks to your extreme bias. But, since you're lavishing FFXI with praise while bashing FFXIV, you're going to get the likes around here while more objective people like me who look at all sides get insulted (like with the opening to your response) and scorned.

Whilst saying this, I too am impressed with what the FFXI team has accomplished, but I say so without downplaying that FFXIV has done. FFXI is as fun as it's ever been, and that's why I came back- In spite of what I said above, they managed to to use the same material while adding some freshness to it. But I also enjoy and appriciate what FFXIV's team has done.

Beyond that, what you consider "bad choices" may be considered by others to be good choices. Who died and made your opinion the only one that counts? How about you stop attacking the person and try being objective for once? Your response only proves the point I made in my previous post. I'm not really even trying to defend anything so much as trying to get people to view things with a more objective eye. But it seems like I'd have more success trying to train siberian tigers.

Sad thing is, the majority of FFXIV fanbase agreed with you and Yoshi-P "awesome" vision of the game back then, and look what we got. An empty game with no content and bad itemization. An exercise of numbness.

Hopefully Matsui or someone else will be put in charge of the next FF MMORPG.

[Angemon]

I think they plan to move all DEV's off FFXI at the end. I wouldn't doubt they will take Matsui and bring him to the XIV team, kinda feel annoyed on that but maybe he will do them some good.

[Alhanelem]

Sad thing is, the majority of FFXIV fanbase agreed with you and Yoshi-P "awesome" vision of the game back then, and look what we got. An empty game with no content and bad itemization. An exercise of numbness.

Hopefully Matsui or someone else will be put in charge of the next FF MMORPG.

There's nothing sad about a bunch of players enjoying a game. Your comments reek of hatred for the sake of such (e.g. trolling) as they have no basis in reality.

Hopefully Matsui or someone else will be put in charge of the next FF MMORPG.

Hopefully they won't ever make another one because of the resentment it will inevitably breed.

[Alhanelem]

Better send him to XIV, last thing XI players probably want is a XIV apologist preaching to them non-freaking-stop. <_<

This comment is rude and insulting. More proof that players aren't allowed to enjoy both games. I enjoy XI with a great linkshell full of friendly people, thank you very much. Why am I not allowed to also like something you don't like?

Sad how this thread had to turn into a bunch of baseless personal attacks and hating for the sake of hating.