FFXI crossover event comming to FFXIV

[Daniel_Hatcher]

The game was never as awful as you make it out to be. I started with the US release, I never ever got bored since. I am not saying it didn't have any flaws but it never pretended to be the perfect game in the first place, unlike your cherished FFXIV. I remember my first steps in San d'Oria, in Ronfaure, the music, the magic, the people I met. I cared about the world, cared for the NPCs of Vana'diel, cared for the friends I made, cared about my character, pretty much each and every piece of equipment I got had a story. I'm sorry if I've never been able to feel the same in FFXIV, I never cared about anything in Eorzea, never missed the game when I had to take a break for work or holidays, never was happy coming back after said break because there is nothing deep and attaching in this game.
If you like your memories of spamming FATEs, entering one-way dungeons through a hub, throwing equipment every three months, avoiding scripted red circles on the floor, exploring an empty world and not playing the way you want, good for you. We seem to prefer a slightly deeper experience.

No, you simply don't remember how bad it was.

Unlike my cherished FFXIV, say wha? I have no problems with someone not liking FFXIV, going from FFXI to FFXIV it's not hard to see how it could loose several players, the problem I have is with people who played it once, or even never then slating the game because they think it makes them "cool."

You want a "Deeper experience" so play FFXI, that's hilarious.

[Angemon]

Multiple people have played FFXIV here that are criticizing it, have you not read that already?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Multiple people have played FFXIV here that are criticizing it, have you not read that already?

The same people posting the same complaints that take 2 seconds to Google (to find) you mean? Claiming you played something and actually playing it are two different things.

[Angemon]

One of the guys linked his profile man... it's not like its some special club that only a few can join. I'm sure by now many have tried XIV and formed their opinions.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

One of the guys linked his profile man... it's not like its some special club that only a few can join. I'm sure by now many have tried XIV and formed their opinions.

And a lot have let others form their opinions for them, or have decided to jump on the bandwagon, people like a moan and rarely is having any knowledge in the subject necessary to do so.

[Vanfrano]

The same people posting the same complaints that take 2 seconds to Google (to find) you mean? Claiming you played something and actually playing it are two different things.

So you're admitting that all the criticism found here about FFXIV is easily found on Google?
"That's hilarious"

[Daniel_Hatcher]

So you're admitting that all the criticism found here about FFXIV is easily found on Google?
"That's hilarious"

Yes, about the game at launch, imagine the criticism FFXI would get if we did the same.

[Olor]

I remember my first steps in San d'Oria, in Ronfaure, the music, the magic, the people I met. I cared about the world, cared for the NPCs of Vana'diel, cared for the friends I made, cared about my character, pretty much each and every piece of equipment I got had a story. I'm sorry if I've never been able to feel the same in FFXIV, I never cared about anything in Eorzea,

This. Some people just like different things. For me FFXIV is pretty but has no soul. Everything feels meant to be discarded. Crafting is mostly pointless. Fishing is pretty much useless. The mages have barely any spells and are boring to play. Just not my jam.

When it first released there was a lot that was terrible but some things were actually better before 2.0. For example, pre-2.0 pugilist was the first monk type class I ever enjoyed playing. I loved combining skills from tons of classes to make my character do neat things. Then they nerfed cross classing and deleted most of the skills from the game in 2.0... it was disappoint.

[Alhanelem]

So you're admitting that all the criticism found here about FFXIV is easily found on Google?
"That's hilarious"

I'm kind of baffled on this contment. All the criticism, and all the praise, can all of course be found on google, because these forums and others are all indexed by it. What's your point?

Multiple people have played FFXIV here that are criticizing it, have you not read that already?

And there are also those who have played it and have enjoyed it. My issue is with those that haven't played it that hate on it purely because it's a thing. I never asked for everyone to like everything. but I shouldn't, as a fan of both games, be berated for liking XIV and being upset at the biased comparisons that have been put forth in this thread and others.

For me FFXIV is pretty but has no soul.

FFXIV isn't a living organism and can't have a soul, nor can FFXI. Before you go *whoosh*, yes, I know what you really meant. I don't really agree with that, I think it's a beautifully crafted world, every NPC has a personality, there's an enjoyable story being told; I feel like the world feels just as "alive" as Vana'diel.

Crafting

What you say has historically been true, but that's about to change. Crafted items are going to be made more powerful and most equipment that has historically been non-convertible/non-meldable will now be able to be melded/converted, which will make crafters a more valued part of the world and give players more equipment options at any given level.

[Rexen]

I played FFXI from just after WotG was released up until just after SoA. The game was so difficult even then and took so much time. Getting a job leveled took time and patience and because of it, you would meet people along the way. You'd keep bumping into the same people as you leveled at the same speed "oh wow, you're 2 levels higher than me now!" and make friends. FFXIV leveling is FATE grinding, where it's mostly bots and people don't ever talk in parties, or waiting hours for a DF invite. This was my FFXIV experience in 2.0, I didn't buy Heavensward after completing the story and not sure I will.

The quests in FFXIV are so pointless and I did them all hoping they would add lore but they didn't. I remember doing my Windurst rank missions, and when Yoran-Oran talks about adventurers giving him items from Mandragora I remember thinking "I did that quest! It actually means something to the story!" and that was how a lot of the quests in FFXI felt to me. It was a huge world and the missions were big stories, but they were a drop in the ocean of all the story in the game.

Then there is the end game stuff in XIV. I don't have as long to play games now. What is the point in logging in every day to cap points for the week to get armour which will be completely replaced in 3 months? At least in FFXI, your hard work mattered and lasted for a long time. When FFXI had the vertical gear progression after the release of SoA I just lost interest and went to FFXIV hoping that it wouldn't be like that. Well...

As for saying that FFXI has rehashed content too, at least it doesn't try pretend that it's something new by reskinning it. Hard Mode Salvage was still pitched as Salvage, the higher tier battlefields are told to us as reliving old memories. FFXIV just reskinned old content and called it new and I think it got old fast. I wanted to like FFXIV so much because it has so much potential for lore and story, but the development team there don't seem to care so much about it.