FFXI crossover event comming to FFXIV

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I bought and played it, this is why I dare say what I think about this joke of a game. Otherwise I wouldn't say a word.

I guess you never played FFXI at launch either then.

[Raydeus]

It's fairly simple really. XIV is just a disposable WoW-clone, and XI was sacrificed for it.

Some people enjoy XIV because of that, others don't. And I sure as hell will never play it again. So when XI is shut down I'll just move on to other games. For instance Korean MMOs are evolving in interesting ways these days, and there are some VR-MMO games in the early stages right now as well. So it's not like XIV is of any importance anymore.

[Angemon]

It's fairly simple really. XIV is just a disposable WoW-clone, and XI was sacrificed for it.

Some people enjoy XIV because of that, others don't. And I sure as hell will never play it again. So when XI is shut down I'll just move on to other games. For instance Korean MMOs are evolving in interesting ways these days, and there are some VR-MMO games in the early stages right now as well. So it's not like XIV is of any importance anymore.

I feel the same bitterness :/. What's even funnier is the producer from XIV made a statement on their forums that XIV is having an event collaboration to "match the grand scale" of XI's finale. It's almost like they want people to quit XI and move over after the update, with a smug grin on their faces. This game was sacrificed mercilessly for that garbage, WOTG with the brunt of it where we recieved like 0 updates and now where the game is being shut off on PC (since they stated they dont want to revamp XI for PC since it will compete with their baby) and being slapped onto a mobile market.

[Alhanelem]

I feel the same bitterness :/. What's even funnier is the producer from XIV made a statement on their forums that XIV is having an event collaboration to "match the grand scale" of XI's finale. It's almost like they want people to quit XI and move over after the update, with a smug grin on their faces. This game was sacrificed mercilessly for that garbage, WOTG with the brunt of it where we recieved like 0 updates and now where the game is being shut off on PC (since they stated they dont want to revamp XI for PC since it will compete with their baby) and being slapped onto a mobile market.

Again, you / we don'tknow they aren't doing anything on this side. You need two or more parties for a "collaboration."

[Morovich]

The game is being shut down only on the console systems but not on the PC. There is no remake being made for the PC though however that is correct.

[Alhanelem]

It's fairly simple really. XIV is just a disposable WoW-clone, and XI was sacrificed for it.

It's been made very clear the reason why things are the way they are, and even though everyone belives what you said, it's not the truth. XI would still be running into a development tool problem now whether or not XIV ever existed. And even before FFXI was released, they didn't expect it to stay strong as long as it did (Why would they think so? Few games last this many years no matter how good they are). I refuse to believe the conspiracy theories. I've even seen people claim Abyssea was a deliberate attempt to kill the game, and that's one of the most absurd arguments I've ever heard. If they wanted to just kill it, they would have simply done so.

And while I don't play it, I still fail to see why WoW and any other game that resembles it in any way gets so much hate. I mean, for all intents and purposes, it was a successful game. Do we just hate on things because they succeed? FFXIV doesn't seem "disposable" to me, either Lots of other games have tried cloning wow with crappy results at best, and virtually every attempt has gone free to play. XIV hasn't. It's already in its third year not counting 1.0.

But I accept at this point that people like me that appriciate what both games have to offer are a rarity and I will forever be scorned for not branding FFXIV a steaming pile of whatsit. I guess it's like an American Football fan going to a football stadium in europe and telling the fans there you like American Football just as much as Not American Football.

[Angemon]

I don't think we see eye to eye on this I'll just head out of the discussion for now. Also on a final note:

It's been made very clear the reason why things are the way they are, and even though everyone belives what you said, it's not the truth. XI would still be running into a development tool problem now whether or not XIV ever existed. And even before FFXI was released, they didn't expect it to stay strong as long as it did (Why would they think so? Few games last this many years no matter how good they are). I refuse to believe the conspiracy theories. I've even seen people claim Abyssea was a deliberate attempt to kill the game, and that's one of the most absurd arguments I've ever heard. If they wanted to just kill it, they would have simply done so.

This simply is not true. They stated in the translation of their event in March that they would not want to recreate FFXI on PC (which is why they are going mobile) because it would cannibalize its own subscribers from their other two MMOs (Dragon Quest online and FFXIV.) If those games didn't exist (specifically XIV) they would have invested in making FFXI for PC or at the least they would do what they are doing now with Nexons but with PC instead of mobile.

[Alhanelem]

This simply is not true. They stated in the translation of their event in March that they would not want to recreate FFXI on PC (which is why they are going mobile) because it would cannibalize its own subscribers from their other two MMOs (Dragon Quest online and FFXIV.) If those games didn't exist (specifically XIV) they would have invested in making FFXI for PC or at the least they would do what they are doing now with Nexons but with PC instead of mobile.

Except we both know that would be extremely unlikely to happen.

[Fawkes]

When they did the first crossover event I was hoping for an O-hat and scorpion harness for glamour in XIV. Usually when they do an event people stand around wearing the event gear for a while, and I thought it would be funny to see a bunch of people wearing that (again).

But since this event sounds like a 'farewell to XI' themed event I would probably want more than just a fun joke. Although the event is in 2 weeks and they didn't show any pictures of gear so I probably shouldn't get my hopes up.

[Masamune11]

Are there really this many people that hate FFXIV? I can completely understand if FFXI is more your cup of tea. But I'm surprised at how many people are calling FFXIV garbage. I used to think the same about WoW. I even played WoW for a few months - but I never got to endgame. That's the key. You really can't judge a game until you've seen its endgame content.

Is there anyone here bashing FFXIV that made it all the way to endgame? Anyone here bashing FFXIV that played Heavensward? Care to link your profile? Have you guys checked out Heavensward on Metacritic?

I hope more people give it a chance. I truly do. There's room for both MMOs - but unfortunately most have already packed their bags and left FFXI. SE is not killing FFXI to bring more players to FFXIV. The truth of the matter is that an FFXI server averages 300 players online at a time. FFXIV has 5 million "registered" users whereas FFXI never hit 2 million "registered" or more than 500k "active." How may players would SE truly be bringing to FFXIV by killing FFXI? I can't imagine there being more than 50K currently active subscribers.

Bottom line: I don't want FFXI to die. I love the game. I hope it can stick around for years to come.