FFXI crossover event comming to FFXIV

[detlef]

The first go around was fun, but let's be real, now that everyone's settled a lot of people find it boring and as with most in XIV, so much potential, poor implementation. So yes, who doesn't like getting BiS gear for liittle to no work? I mean, unless you're going in full pre-made each and every time, you're mostly getting people who immediately switch to gathering and greed on every gear piece that drops if you DO happen to get chests. His point was, Heavensward's End-game is exactly the same as 2.0 eras.

Is this the raid with the gold, silver, and bronze chests? I've been watching over my GF's shoulder and it reminds me of old Dynamis in a bad way. Are there really hundreds of possible drops, the good ones of which only drop from gold chests? How does the lotting system work in that zone considering you can change jobs?

[Jin_Uzuki]

I agree on everything here.

One of the reasons I left XIV is because of the sadness I felt when I would look at those forums, and I would see XIV's playerbase was more concerned with something like "Eorzea's Next Top Model!" and it having thousands of posts, than they were for actually playing the game.

This made me giggle so hard... because it's completely true.

[Rubicant82]

Dear SE, please take the time, and give FFXI FFXIV's graphics, and watch players flood back to XI. K, THX!

XIV makes me sad, it is a weekly mission cap fest, and then nothing to do. I love XI, there is so much to do ... though it is the same stuff... XD
Like grinding Apex mobs for CP.

[Zumi]

Is this the raid with the gold, silver, and bronze chests? I've been watching over my GF's shoulder and it reminds me of old Dynamis in a bad way. Are there really hundreds of possible drops, the good ones of which only drop from gold chests? How does the lotting system work in that zone considering you can change jobs?

I would say it mirrors dynamis a lot. I think they added it because a bunch of FFXI players wanted an event like this were you go around and kill trash mobs for a couple hours and collect random loot. Most of the loot is pure junk you have to get really lucky to get a drop that has any decent stats think Diablo 3. The better content in the patch is King Thoradan and alex savage from the previous patch.

Also there is more to do then just endgame in ffxi, there are so much stuff you to getting glamor gear for you charcter, collecting pets, decorating your house, playing triple traid, or other gold saucer games. Honestly a reason why people like FFXIV so much is there is a variety of different stuff you can spend your time doing.

Its hard playing both FFXI and FFXIV, but I am taking some time off of FFXIV for few hours finish up the final missions in FFXI but I really have a ton of stuff I want to do in FFXIV but I want to see the last missions for myself in FFXI.

[detlef]

I would say it mirrors dynamis a lot. I think they added it because a bunch of FFXI players wanted an event like this were you go around and kill trash mobs for a couple hours and collect random loot. Most of the loot is pure junk you have to get really lucky to get a drop that has any decent stats think Diablo 3. The better content in the patch is King Thoradan and alex savage from the previous patch.

I have a hard time imagining players requesting something like this. You'd think that they'd know better from experience how horrible old school Dynamis was. Anyway, GF seems to enjoy it for now but she's resigned herself to not getting anything she actually wants and all but admitted that the only thing that really mattered to her was that Pegasus mount. Unfortunately her group is stuck on Thoradin and A3 so it remains to be seen what it'll take for them to break through on those two.

If it sounds like I'm being critical, I do have an overall negative opinion but it's going to be a part of my life regardless so I try to understand. I just feel that the game is just memorization, DPS checks, glamour, and mounts. And daily/weekly caps.

[Zumi]

I have a hard time imagining players requesting something like this. You'd think that they'd know better from experience how horrible old school Dynamis was. Anyway, GF seems to enjoy it for now but she's resigned herself to not getting anything she actually wants and all but admitted that the only thing that really mattered to her was that Pegasus mount. Unfortunately her group is stuck on Thoradin and A3 so it remains to be seen what it'll take for them to break through on those two.

If it sounds like I'm being critical, I do have an overall negative opinion but it's going to be a part of my life regardless so I try to understand. I just feel that the game is just memorization, DPS checks, glamour, and mounts. And daily/weekly caps.

I want the Pegasus mount too because I am a mount collector halfway toward getting it at the moment. Personally I don't find the zone fun, but I do find savage alex and extreme fights really fun. The zone also makes money in that its like the only good source of tier 5 materia which sells for millions, and offers high level craft items. I know some people in few my LS they spend all day doing this zone because they want more gil. SE already said they are going to let you put materia in your raid/tome gear in the next patch so I am sure this will be farmed even more for Tier 5 materia if you want to be the best of the best next patch.

I am going to farm extra coins from the zone too because I have a prediction that the new relics that come out in the next mini patch will somehow use them. If not I can always buy materia with those coins.

[Angemon]

I would say it mirrors dynamis a lot. I think they added it because a bunch of FFXI players wanted an event like this were you go around and kill trash mobs for a couple hours and collect random loot. Most of the loot is pure junk you have to get really lucky to get a drop that has any decent stats think Diablo 3. The better content in the patch is King Thoradan and alex savage from the previous patch.

Also there is more to do then just endgame in ffxi, there are so much stuff you to getting glamor gear for you charcter, collecting pets, decorating your house, playing triple traid, or other gold saucer games. Honestly a reason why people like FFXIV so much is there is a variety of different stuff you can spend your time doing.

Its hard playing both FFXI and FFXIV, but I am taking some time off of FFXIV for few hours finish up the final missions in FFXI but I really have a ton of stuff I want to do in FFXIV but I want to see the last missions for myself in FFXI.

Lets see... There is monster rearing, chocobo raising, chocobo racing, monstrosity, pankration, ballista, gamble tables, chocobo digging and I'm sure I am missing some. So you didn't consider those content but now in XIV you do? A lot of the reason people stay with 14 is the graphics like someone said earlier... its really shallow.

[Zumi]

Lets see... There is monster rearing, chocobo raising, chocobo racing, monstrosity, pankration, ballista, gamble tables, chocobo digging and I'm sure I am missing some. So you didn't consider those content but now in XIV you do? A lot of the reason people stay with 14 is the graphics like someone said earlier... its really shallow.

FFXIV has a lot of the same thing, chocobo leveling, chocobo racing / breeding, minion / mount collecting, minion battles, triple traid, gold saucer minigames, gardening, house/room decorating. Both games have a lot of side mini games so what is your point?

Is there some reason why you can't like both games ? There seems to be a lot of FFXI only players who hate on FFXIV but if you spend some time playing it you can find a lot of stuff to do in it.

[Elexia]

@Diadem: Yes it's the bootleg version of Dynamis, not even "Neo-Dynamis"..just not fun at all once the sheen wears off. Good concept but I much prefer Dynamis. I mean Dino Island Loot Pinata is nice..but anyone who wasnt blinded by "oo shiny!" knew what it would do for the game in terms of gear progression. If it dropped weapons there would have been nil reason to touch Thordan's Reign.

FFXIV has a lot of the same thing, chocobo leveling, chocobo racing / breeding, minion / mount collecting, minion battles, triple traid, gold saucer minigames, gardening, house/room decorating. Both games have a lot of side mini games so what is your point?

Is there some reason why you can't like both games ? There seems to be a lot of FFXI only players who hate on FFXIV but if you spend some time playing it you can find a lot of stuff to do in it.

XIV has a lot of it..and they also let it rot. In XI, it never got "a limelight", but in XIV, it died out quickly because SE made Chocobo Racing part of the content pack in 2.5/2.55, meaning it was the only thing left to do if you weren't farming Final Coil.

I'll make a tl;dr version:

-I did every bit of content, to completion, in the 2 years.
-If they didn't lock you out of gear or systems weekly, the content base of XIV is extremely shallow.
-Yoshida himself in an interview stated they can't do a lot due to fear of crashing the servers or have no funds to do so. You never heard this with XI, you heard "PS2 limitations" in place of "no we won't do this" because in Japanese culture, it's considered rude/bad business to say no - much like when they fire someone, that person merely "left."
-They don't build off of systems in XIV like they do in XI, thus those systems have no purpose after the next update. In XI, some systems die out but if you do them, they're self contained and sometimes benefit you (Monster Rearing for example.) But in XIV, no one does Chocobo Racing to the point if you want to..have fun with those queues.

So yes plenty to do. Much like I can go outside and bench press a boulder. Does it benefit me? Sure, but is it something I'd want to do compared to say going to the movies? Nope. Unless it's to gain access to Ishgard, all 2.0-2.55 content is obsolete and have no purpose being touched. Even Diadem killed the need to do many 3.0 and 3.1 content aside hitting bare minimum Ilvl.

[Jin_Uzuki]

Excellent post Elexia.

I would say the gear system and lack of depth as far character progression are also the biggest weakness in FFXIV. The gear progression in FFXIV is just so boring and sterile that it's hard to get excited and leads to boring end-game. Every gear ever is essentially the same old gear reskinned with +1 stat vomit.

In FFXI you are always acquiring new equipment, doing JP, spending merits and every job/sj combination feels like a complete different experience.