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  1. #81
    Player bazookatooth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankbrodie View Post
    Yeah no such luck.. F8 and ready range remain the same.
    THey might make some other change to compensate and save face, but it's very unlike SE to ever admit that they were wrong and reverse a change. I'm guessing we'll see some wacky new pets or some new gear that is supposed to make this not suck so bad (But probably won't) instead of an adjustment to the distance.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
    THey might make some other change to compensate and save face, but it's very unlike SE to ever admit that they were wrong and reverse a change. I'm guessing we'll see some wacky new pets or some new gear that is supposed to make this not suck so bad (But probably won't) instead of an adjustment to the distance.
    With the game ending, I think they just don't care. I'm giving up on checking. It's depressing visiting the forums daily anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kylani View Post
    With the game ending, I think they just don't care. I'm giving up on checking. It's depressing visiting the forums daily anyway.
    I think so too. They will loose some players but they can always say it was due the game ending now.
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  4. #84
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    /targetbnpc guys iys a new command they gave us use that instead of f8 its way better anyway
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  5. #85
    Player bazookatooth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    /targetbnpc guys iys a new command they gave us use that instead of f8 its way better anyway
    No it isn't. f8 is one key. /target is a bunch of keys. It's nowhere near as good. Not only that, but if you play with a game pad, the select button now functions this way, so you have to put down the controller to use that command. It's complete garbage and serves no purpose. Targeting NPCs in your own party was never an issue to begin with. This is a problem disguised as a fix.
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  7. #86
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    So...... To get back on topic for this thread.

    SE community reps, please respond if the dev team "has plans" to repair the damage they did to BST?

    Devs made a mortal wound to BST instead of a minor change to the aoe-pet dmg multiplier, which would not have taken all of the designed playability and fun out of the job.

    SE community reps, please respond.
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  8. #87
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    I don't see the dmg as the problem. In my opinion is it more the high base acc and att of pets, compared to other jobs. If you put any other freshbaked DD in reforged AF, he can probably do not more than a "Easy" Battlefield. Do the same with a new Bst and he can be DD on a "Difficult" Battlefield. Statwise, he still needs the -recast on rdy moves, but that's no problem.
    So it's pretty OP on early endgame or in fights without buffs.

    For me the solution is pretty simple, take away some acc and att of pets, therefore adjust rolls and songs to give it them back on high NM's, just treat them like any other DD statwise. And combine buffs for pets and players in the same roll/song to let them team up with each other easier. The dmg is and should be behind equal built melee, so give the old range back.
    Bst could be a pretty good addition to a party for adds, decent DD and as an offtank.
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  9. #88
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    I have three accounts with varying states of gear. My spark geared mule account can do decent dmg to fodder and absolute garbage dmg to anything of value including unity nms. Mule account literally does 1/2 my dmg.

    So no, a bandwagon BST can not do remotely similar dmg to a career BST.

    To add even more clarification, BST is my main but I did an SR run with a BST that had spent 100's of millions of Gil on their BST and I have not as I don't play enough these days to have the same level of gear and I was doing around half of her dmg. I looked like a joke.

    So in short no, bandwagons are not OP, they were perhaps mediocre at best vs a properly geared player.

    The update made BST unplayable and unenjoyable. It is destroyed and SE needs to take back the Nerf.

    Virtually any changes would have been better than to break our job abilities.

    Oh and as for a bandwagon BST winning a difficult, I say that's very unlikely as the acc even with +1 food is trash without amazing pet acc gear.
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    Last edited by Jile; 10-03-2015 at 03:54 AM.

  10. #89
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    I think you misunderstand me.
    I'm speaking of the accuracy and attack situation of bst compared to other DD, in early endgame. Bst has a big advantage here, play around with /checkparam on your different bsts and melee. There's no way such a low built bst wins solo a D battlefield. But he's able to hit there and deal damage, what other jobs can't do with the same gear effort.
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  11. #90
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    Perhaps I misunderstood.

    I will say though with my 119set and using the best pet-benefitting food, I'm still wiffing in difficult AA fights, for example. My mule account can't even land enough hits to place her in aoe danger range so she sends pet and walks away rest of the fight because she's useless other than some added dps from pet, a trust contributes more.

    For a BST that has spent 100's of millions of Gil, they won't have acc issues, but the rest of the BST out there do.

    The complaints happened because epic BST's were desired over other dd's because it was less curing for healers. Now that BST are mp sinks there is no place for them in endgame.

    At this stage of the game SE should be designing ways all jobs are needed for end game, not making anyone useless.
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