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    Player dasva's Avatar
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    Dasva
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    Shiva
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    SAM Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    The one thing they do that might have served as any decent hate generation (Healing Breath) doesn't actually generate any hate because apparently NPC heals just don't generate hate for whatever reason. They cannot be made to use any other hate generation tool, I don't think THFs can Trick Attack onto them, and Super Jump only gets hate off the DRG, not transferred to the wyvern, AFAIK.

    Other than DRGs Super Jumping their way to safety while the wyvern takes the fall for them, I'd be shocked if there was any real way to get them to "tank" anything
    Are we sure that is still the case for healing breath though? I mean npcs in battles generate cure enmity now as do trusts... I hear of people using auto cure cheats for enmity... they could've easily changed it... I'll probably get around to testing it eventually but my main focus is on pup right now which is a rather large amount of things to test with all the changes and general lack of posted testing.

    Regardless my first idea was actually getting hate the same way melees do... dealing dmg minus the ws. Basically constantly spirit link over some hastes and marches some ja haste (need to test if hasso works) and some other buffs and watch the wyvern melee as fast as well buffed melees. Then give them tons of dt partly to keep them alive but largely to stem the loss of enmity from dmg to compensate for the lesser generation. Still a work in progress and it's largely a thought experiment and will probably be cotanking at best but a lot of pet strategies often include some bouncing as long as it's kept off the players and less of the directed dmg goes to the less defensive pets it's fine
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    Last edited by dasva; 10-11-2015 at 08:24 AM.

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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Jeremi
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    Quetzalcoatl
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    PLD Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Are we sure that is still the case for healing breath though?
    He is correct. Healing Breath does not generate any hate.

    That's why Dragoons can make exceptional bomb healers in situations where their wyvern isn't threatened.
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    Last edited by Dale; 10-11-2015 at 10:12 PM.